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Diane Di's avatar

I've heard of cases where the person was about to be operated on for their organs and had come out of their coma and startle the doctors and nurses. A lot of people believe the person has to be dead before they remove organs, but that's not the case at all. You can't harvest organs from a cadaver, the person must be alive.

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OldGuyAdventure's avatar

In Canada we have the assisted suicide program (MAID), and in the forms to complete a suicide, you have no choice, as your body will be donated for organ transplants. There were 16,000 assisted procedures last year, and apparently the Government of Canada is raking in massive funds on the organ "donation" program associated with the MAID system. In 2027 they will be allowing mentally challenged young adults to opt in for MAID. An active review is currently underway to determine whether human rights violations are associated with MAID, as it appears that more people are opting into the program every couple of years. I would expect that there will eventually be no nursing homes in Canada and they will just be lined up for their injection to have them put down like dogs get.

I have been informed that the system used for MAID resembles lethal injection, which involves a chemical drowning process; technically, a person could be in a state of drowning for several minutes after receiving the injection. So will this system be moved to inmates serving life sentences? You know we used to just shoot them.

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gusman's avatar

6,000wow......

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Andrew Devlin's avatar

Many years ago, I saw reports of this. I immediately removed the organ donor listed on my driver’s license and my wife did as well. We informed our children of the dangers and I believe they also removed it.

Another thing to think about is when doctors speak in front of a comatose patient and discuss end of life. When one of my sons was near death, the doctor casually spoke about turning off the machines keeping him alive. I had to get that doctor out of the room and tell him never to speak like that in front of my son, comatose or not! I had read many testimonials from formerly comatose patients who had enough brain activity to hear and get upset despite the fact that they couldn’t express it.

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SomeDude's avatar

I keep reading about the obscenely high prices charged by hospitals for organ transplants.

I have never once read about the donor, or their surviving family, getting a cut of those tens/hundreds/thousands of thousands of dollars being made with their organs

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Organ harvesting has been a business for a long time. After the breakup of the Soviet Union, the European headquarters was in Russia, where hundreds of thousands of children and young people disappeared (by the way, where are the "migrant" children in the US?).

While legalizing drugs would take care of the black market (as long as prices are not inflated, especially with taxes), the next most lucrative business is human trafficking for sex and organ harvesting. The devil is not going to sleep.

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Dr Monica's avatar

Indeed, great article! People have to understand that medicine is NEVER settled, the science is NEVER settled either, all and every thing is open for debate! If all was clear and settled in any instance then there will be no discoveries, no debates, no progress! Everything has to be debated, discussed, researched by multiple parties, and still considered as not really settled and finalized!! That is why OPEN and FREE speech/debate is so vitally important !

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Will's avatar

DR VERNON COLEMAN ( ON SUBSTACK) ...

WROTE ABOUT THIS...

DECADES AGO, WHEN " BRAINDEAD" SUDDENLY BECAME A THING...

I TOOK MY NAME OF THE TRANSPLANT LIST...

THERE'S A CODE ON YOUR DRIVING LICENCE...

I THINK IT'S ITEM 15...

CHECK YOUR LICENCE- I GAVE CONSENT, WHEN I WAS GIVING PLASMA/ BLOOD DONATIONS, YEARS AGO, BUT I THINK IT MAY NOW BE AUTOMATIC, UNLESS YOU REQUEST THE OPT OUT ...

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Erin Montgomery's avatar

Have been trying to convince family members to uncheck the organ donation box on their drivers license.

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Heidi Heil STOPS Thymectomy's avatar

Please STOP thymus organ theft of babies during heart surgery - what happened to my son has been going on for 50 years without parents knowledge or consent. These organs are used for pharmaceuticals

How many people in the USA have had their thymus stolen without being told?...

https://thymuscures.substack.com/p/how-many-people-in-usa-had-their

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William Toth's avatar

What an education! I’ve made the change in my license.

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AaronKM's avatar

I am of the belief that there are a lot of doctors who should be tried for first degree premeditated murder. They know what they're doing, they plan what they do and they murder living people to harvest their organs. Given the numbers, I am absolutely certain that doctors are amongst the most prolific serial killers in the world. I have tried telling people that organs can not be taken from the deceased. Only those organs that have been taken from the living where the organs are being perfused will be considered viable for transplantation. Organ cellular death commences shortly after perfusion stops. There are some tissues that can be harvested from the deceased but they are few. Continued...

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AaronKM's avatar

In the harvesting procedures, the very last organ removed is the heart because it maintains perfusion through the procedure. The heart removal would be the donor's final undoing if the agony of pain doesn't kill them first. Donors are administered with only paralytic agents and never anesthetic or pain medications. Skyrocketing blood pressure indicates the donor is experiencing pain. Living donation aside, which I have no problem with, for every person who hs received an organ donation, someone necessarily had to die (or be murdered) to make that donation happen. Sad but true. Continued….

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AaronKM's avatar

I have seen some try to explain that organs can be taken from the deceased if they're vented. Venting a deceased body does not perfuse the organs. Venting a deceased body does not move blood around the body. Inspiration abd exhalation are both voluntary and while a body can be blown up with air by vent, there is no release of carbon dioxide. Our healthcare system has been sugarcoating a system of murder for decades now. There is no doubt that many were killed for theor organs and there are manyvwho must be appropriately adjudicated for their crimes. Yes, organ harvesting is a crime!!

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Ellen Whitworth's avatar

I was a hospice nurse years ago and I was all for Maid. Back then it was for the terminally ill. If they could not control your pain and you had enough you could get Maid. I was for all that. Not anymore. It’s been abused so the government can sell your organs and make a profit. Unbelievable

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Jean-Louis  Kandala's avatar

Self regulation in whatever industry is never a solution as conflicts of interest can not be avoided especially when corporations staff can join the regulating entity and vice versa.

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Barbara Charis's avatar

The level of consciousness in those who do these implants...is so low that in dealing with people like this...it will be their downfall. People have no comprehension that they have made themselves ill from indulging themselves in some way. It will happen again, after they receive an implant. They have not corrected and eliminated the Cause of their poor health. In addition, how healthy were the people these transplants came from? They cost a fortune and will not give the receiver that many years to indulge themselves further.

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mtman2's avatar

A decent person, certainly a Godly person will die with dignity rather then have a "murder" committed to live a while longer = I know I would and look forward to meet Christ Jesus face to face tho I'm a sinner but Saved by His Grace and by His Blood shed for me helpless to face Eternity without Him...!

At 7yrs old I was given a broad daylight vision the instant I was told my mother died and the room split open and saw her clearer then natural daylight, in an endless place embraced by Jesus and both were dressed in white- of which I never knew then was Scriptural,

That can never be taken away from me as a gift, tho very sad and my life was never the same- I was happy for her to know she was with Him for real...!

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