I have 2 family members on this. Im so frightened for them. I asked at the time they went on it if they were aware of the side effects and they said their doc is watching them closely, but what’s going to happen if/when they stop? Well obviously they won’t be encouraged to and Medicare will be drained because so many will be put on it indefinitely. It’s corrupt beyond recognition and the people will pay dearly.
I sure will, but I have a feeling I wont hear anything unless something negative occurs if/when they try to stop. But why would they stop? It’s free and they are losing weight. In their eyes the doc knows best. I’m sure they’re hearing “it’s safe and affective” again. They fell for that in 2020. So so heartbreaking.
I don't know about this poison but in CO they advertise in bold letters,"Free Emergency Medicaid and Reproductive Benefits(Abortions) to ILLEGALS! I as a 62 yr old disabled American can't even Qualify for a ride to the grocery store! Free Rides to Drugstore all month long. Maybe I should claim to be a pregnant 62 illegal to get benefits
It depends on a persons insurance. I heard a great deal about the ‘wonders’ of ozempic, at a science fiction writer’s convention last year. Some people there (mostly STEM retirees) could get it with their medical insurance.
These sorts of things never end well. I remember the stomach stapling fad. Eating caused intense pain, and there were other problems.
I was so upset I forgot to mention that I was filling out my Medicaid re-cert application, they pay my Medicare. They won't provide rede to grocery store but drug stores all month long
There are risks yes. We dont know the long term effects of these drugs... but we do know the long term effects of obesity. Being heavily overweight will lead to complications down the road.
In my case, my BMI was 44, my first son was just born and I was about to turn 40... If i didnt change something I knew I wasn't going to make it to see him graduate high school; let alone maybe someday have grandkids.
Changing my diet and excercise helped, but i stalled out at a BMI of 40... I knew I needed help to get it down.
Now I've lost over 100lbs, and down to a BMI of 27. Technically slightly overweight but my faimily and I are overjoyed so far. Even doc is telling me he isnt worried about that amount of weight right now, but getting down under 25 would be ideal.
I know there are risks, my eyes are open, I'm willing to take them for a chance to live longer and see my kids grow up. That's why I do not regret my choice even if it turns out badly, it's a risk I knew I had to take.
I'd think there would be supplements people could take to blunt the ill effects of these drugs, fresh grapefruit or grapefruit seed extract; activated charcoal. For every drug there is usually a counter.
The idea would be that people who are locked into bad pharma protocols could be helped by family members who could give them supplements, etc. that would neutralize the ill effects of the drugs, the supplements I cited would likely do that.
I remember when there was a grapefruit fad diet, and numerous people were feeling really great on it. Then it turned out that it was halving the effect of their heart meds. Hummmm….
Why is the FDA pushing it when they stopped fenphen back in the 90's? Well the answer is easy. M O N E Y. Was the FDA getting the huge kickbacks for approval back in the 90's? Well they sure are today.
Another more foundational root cause to obesity, in my admittedly unqualified and non-expert opinion (maybe that's a good thing?), is the low nutrient density in our food supply. If unadulterated food (which you can surmise is nearly absent in this country) contains ALL the nutrients that a human body needs, and the food-like stuff that is passed off as sustenance here in the US contains only a fraction of said nutrients (say, critical micro-nutrients like selenium, zinc, etc), then a person will have to eat vast quantities of such food-like stuff to get what their body needs. For example, you might need to eat 10 cheeseburgers at Mickey D's (complete guess) to get the same nutrition from an organic, regenerative, grass-fed burger. As Bill Mollison famously said, "Though the problems of the world are increasingly complex, the solutions remain embarrassingly simple." So what is the solution? Find a way to swap out the % of GDP in the US spent on healthcare and food/sustenance production (organic, regenerative, grass-fed ain't cheap, but neither is un-subsidized Ozempic and all of it's side effects).
Big Agra funds the National Dietetics Association and that's how you end up with a diet high in starchy carbs (corn, wheat) promoted as the ideal. And make sure you drink your milk too. I got the dietetics degree only to learn I couldn't promote their unhealthy views of nutrition. So I have 2 four-year degrees, one of which was a waste of money.
You make an excellent and mostly overlooked root point. It must be further noted that nutrition was a strong consideration when it came to food...until it was conveniently replaced and taken over by the 'calorie,' a rather nonsensical concept...and at a time when 'foods' the like of Crisco were being introduced. Yet another quinky-dink in history.
The most disturbing thing we can see from your excellent report and others (like Sasha Latypova's this week) is that we still can't trust the FDA and CDC, even with the new administration, which is doing some good things but is still not fully facing up to the deadly mRNA poisons and the machine that promotes them. And yet political leaders and judges and corporate boards and other govt agencies and hospital administrators and school administrators all look to FDA and CDC for their guidance on whether to mandate things that have been proven to be deadly.
I think the temptation to use Ozempic is understandable. Even eating well is not enough to keep weight off, portion control is vital. Long-term fasting has different effects on the male versus female body. Not enough emphasis is given to teaching portion control, so it is so easy to overeat and be unclear on how much food to plate. We live in a drug culture and even though advertising lists side effects in tiny writing at the bottom of the screen, the psychological manipulation with powerful marketing techniques holds sway. Pharma has no intentions of shrinking its profit margins, which is what will happen with the implementation of MAHA. There is a market for health aids that is emerging, and there is a huge upside potential for profit remaining. I hope the latter outcompetes pharma for customers.
I took this long ago when it was a diabetes drug. The side effects were awful so I stopped it rather quickly.
Now, as a weight loss drug it is being given with a much higher dose so I can’t imagine anyone taking it willingly IF they are given honest advice about it!
So why do doctors not like a high-fat, high-protein diet? It does, in fact, make you curb hunger. Because it does this so well, people have gone days without being hungry. But it sounds like the story is that people are permanently hooked on drugs and sugar and are always going to the doctor for the next fix, which doesn't work but makes the medical system rich.
The fact is that pharma purposely builds bad side effects into EVERY med the create, to cause you to have to get another med to subdue the side effects of the first pill, while giving you more side effects you'll have to get another med for that will have it's own array of side effects.
And, bottom line, they are part of the eugenics/climate nitwits that want to kill off as many humans as possible.
My 29 year old daughter is on a med for depression and also one for ADHD, and she had to add a third to deal with excessive sweating caused by one (or both) of them. That medication, in turn, led to a dry mouth, and she cracked a tooth. So that means dental work with no dental insurance. At some point, you have to wonder if this "If you give a mouse a cookie" drug routine is worth it. Me personally? I feel people should consider medication only after first trying a routine of healthy eating, moving their body, touching grass, limiting screen time, etc.
I don't think God gives us those things, but yes, I get your point. I am currently reading a book called Unshrunk, by Laura Delano, chronicling her years of being on antidepressants, in and out of treatment centers, doing intensive psychotherapy, etc. I highly recommend it for her discussion of Big Pharma and the 'shrink industry,' and how little they seem to really help most people.
As I mentioned in an earlier comment, I researched into all the research on SSRIs for a medical book, so had access to all the medical data bases, so I knew 25 years ago that pharma companies knew from their own studies they quickly deep-sixed, that their meds had no therapeutic value and caused suicides, zombi-ism and other horrible effects. They don't want any of their meds to cure anything, but to keep you just alive enough to carry on for years as a slave to the chain of meds you end up on. As a former WHO board members said, they purposefully build side-effects into all meds, to create a chain reaction requiring another med for the side-effects ad infinitum.
Wow, given your background, I really appreciate your comment. I myself had been on one or more antidepressants (many different ones) for around 18 years until I finally realized that the only reason I stayed on them is because I feared getting worse if I went off of meds. I think there are many who stay on medication who probably think the same way: they don't really realize they're not any better off with them, but they fear rocking the boat and getting worse without them.
I'm glad you got free. I hope you're doing well. There are a few cases where a person can have a physiological disfunction causing depression. But, docs never consider or look for it, and just write a scrip. Many folks are just having a bad period in their lives, and instead of encouraging building coping muscles, the doc writes a scrip. Pharma gives vacation packages, plain old cash, etc., to prolific scrip writers. As they say, follow the money. You're not valuable well.
Also, and I've had to take my own advice on this, it is important for a person to develop the discipline to unspin negative thinking. You can see my moniker, and I use it to remind myself that there is a difference in cynicism and realism, and insisting on realism instead of cynicism, can allow one to be free of the darkness that comes with cynicism.
Sorry to bloviate so much but I have so many friends whom I have watched have their lives destroyed with SSRIs, it really means a lot to me.
Remember how they kept telling people not to worry about health and fitness or weight loss during all those long months of lockdown while many stress ate and didn't go out to exercise? Then after the world re-opened, they suddenly put drugs like Ozempic out and celebrities start encouraging skinniness again.
Oh, great. The anti-ozempic talking points have been ordered to resurface again. You can all get off your judgmental high horses of half-truths and minimal understanding based on fear porn like this. You have no real understanding of this field of medicine, and even the Midwestern Doctor, as amazing as he is, makes false parallels and leaves out big chunks of nuanced information when he goes after this. Ozempic sucks, sure, but the GLP-1 field is evolving rapidly. And I know many people who have gotten their lives back and off ALL THEIR MEDS because of this intervention.
Stop it with the fear porn. Propaganda works both ways. Remember that.
I am an integratively trained allopathic physician and have been practicing for more than 25 years and I continue to practice on a daily basis. What is in this post does not resonate with me. I would like for the author of this post to please have a meaningful discussion and also disclose where the key points are referenced from and or disclose the “scientific” studies or case studies that is the basis of this please. I also heard today that Medicare is not going to continue covering these medications for obesity so whoever is saying this in the chat is utterly misinformed. Please clarify the veracity of what is claimed in this post. I think we need to have a much more significant and nuanced discussion about these GLP-1 medications. I come from a place of personal experience, not a preformed opinion, but real life on the ground use with a varied population.. I hope the writer of this post can come forward and have an honest discussion. Every decision that we make in life, including even getting in our car and driving, has some risk and we balance always risk with benefit.. it is there that a nuance discussion begins.
I get attacked in these communities every time I defend peptide use. People legitimately do not understand them and base their opinions off of ridiculous, overblown claims such as in this article. I am not a doctor, just an avid health researcher. And the reality is that RFK can say we’ll just give people three organic meals a day and a gym membership and problem solved all he wants, but it’s not that simple. And everyone, except the judgy people here, knows it.
I have been sincerely working with hundreds if not thousands of people and it’s just not that simple to fix what ails the American lifestyle. We live in a stew of dopamine addiction , toxicity from all sources, disconnection from each other and the natural rhythms and impulses.
In all my years as a physician, I have never been able to get blood sugar controlled as quickly as with these medications. Insulin comes nowhere close to the effectiveness I have witnessed with Ozem pic. . Also, these medicines provide what I view as a temporary aid in making the changes that actually result in better outcomes better mood better motivation, more exercise, and better eating choices. I view them as a way to increase natural GLP one activity that probably has been hijacked in a negative way with our modern lifestyle.
I do admit that most medications on the market in the United States do not lower mortality or result in better outcomes . I do not feel that we should blanketly reject every pharmaceutical, but judge it based on whether it leads us in a direction that we need. I look at this whole situation in a much more balanced way because I have a significant amount of experience using these medicines. I almost never see more depression with them, but people report to me. They feel better almost instantaneously and it even appears that they treat underlying depression.
What is Dr Oz's stance on Ozembic since he's the head of Medicare? We didn't like Oz when he ran for Senator in Pennsylvania because he promoted strange supplements that didn't work because of the ad revenue to his TV show.
The incredible positive transformations, of so many thousands of people’s lives should not be overlooked. Most people get no side-effects, completely change their lifestyles & wean of the medication easily. This posting is missing that side of the story. If you were massively obese, incredibly sick, most of your life & now an active, fit & happy person, for the first time in your life, AND now off all BP meds, heart meds, thyroid meds etc. You’d have a much different view.
I’m just learning, but seems those that have reached their goal weight, many down 200-400 lbs., move to a low maintenance dose to allow their bodies to re-adjust. Completely weaning I am sure takes years, just as it took to get over 400 lbs. But lifestyle changes need to be seriously ingrained & activity levels staying high.
I have a old ass sister than lines up for whatever poison she saw on TV yesterday. I can't even talk to her anymore. Her brain is fried. Her life is over. She is to dumb to see what has happened to her.
I just shake my head quietly at the folks here defending Ozempic, Wegovy, etc. You know we'll be seeing it on the cover of Time magazine, etc., in a couple years in a "shocking" story "uncovering the truth behind the miracle weight loss drug."
Indeed. Even now some with such severe gastroparesis that they must seek help at an ER. Some have needed surgery due to intestinal blocks. Ine women spoke of chronic diarrhea even after she stopped. Now a story about vision problems
I have 2 family members on this. Im so frightened for them. I asked at the time they went on it if they were aware of the side effects and they said their doc is watching them closely, but what’s going to happen if/when they stop? Well obviously they won’t be encouraged to and Medicare will be drained because so many will be put on it indefinitely. It’s corrupt beyond recognition and the people will pay dearly.
I sure will, but I have a feeling I wont hear anything unless something negative occurs if/when they try to stop. But why would they stop? It’s free and they are losing weight. In their eyes the doc knows best. I’m sure they’re hearing “it’s safe and affective” again. They fell for that in 2020. So so heartbreaking.
How's it "free"? Everyone I know who considered it would have had to pay heavily.
I don't know about this poison but in CO they advertise in bold letters,"Free Emergency Medicaid and Reproductive Benefits(Abortions) to ILLEGALS! I as a 62 yr old disabled American can't even Qualify for a ride to the grocery store! Free Rides to Drugstore all month long. Maybe I should claim to be a pregnant 62 illegal to get benefits
It depends on a persons insurance. I heard a great deal about the ‘wonders’ of ozempic, at a science fiction writer’s convention last year. Some people there (mostly STEM retirees) could get it with their medical insurance.
These sorts of things never end well. I remember the stomach stapling fad. Eating caused intense pain, and there were other problems.
I was so upset I forgot to mention that I was filling out my Medicaid re-cert application, they pay my Medicare. They won't provide rede to grocery store but drug stores all month long
I fear for them all, as I believe much like the COVID jab, there are long-term consequences
The doc watching them closely? That sounds scary.
😔😢🥺😣🙏
Reply back as you learn more.
There are risks yes. We dont know the long term effects of these drugs... but we do know the long term effects of obesity. Being heavily overweight will lead to complications down the road.
In my case, my BMI was 44, my first son was just born and I was about to turn 40... If i didnt change something I knew I wasn't going to make it to see him graduate high school; let alone maybe someday have grandkids.
Changing my diet and excercise helped, but i stalled out at a BMI of 40... I knew I needed help to get it down.
Now I've lost over 100lbs, and down to a BMI of 27. Technically slightly overweight but my faimily and I are overjoyed so far. Even doc is telling me he isnt worried about that amount of weight right now, but getting down under 25 would be ideal.
I know there are risks, my eyes are open, I'm willing to take them for a chance to live longer and see my kids grow up. That's why I do not regret my choice even if it turns out badly, it's a risk I knew I had to take.
I'd think there would be supplements people could take to blunt the ill effects of these drugs, fresh grapefruit or grapefruit seed extract; activated charcoal. For every drug there is usually a counter.
This viewpoint seems naive at best, and quite likely dangerous.
Go ahead and poison yourself, you can counter the effects with supplements?
No, thanks.
The idea would be that people who are locked into bad pharma protocols could be helped by family members who could give them supplements, etc. that would neutralize the ill effects of the drugs, the supplements I cited would likely do that.
I remember when there was a grapefruit fad diet, and numerous people were feeling really great on it. Then it turned out that it was halving the effect of their heart meds. Hummmm….
And "Drs" get paid for every injection. They get $$$ for every script they fill. God didn't make us fat, AMA did. God Bless you and your family
Why is the FDA pushing it when they stopped fenphen back in the 90's? Well the answer is easy. M O N E Y. Was the FDA getting the huge kickbacks for approval back in the 90's? Well they sure are today.
$$$
Excuse my language but FDA= FuckingDumbAsses! God Bless
Another more foundational root cause to obesity, in my admittedly unqualified and non-expert opinion (maybe that's a good thing?), is the low nutrient density in our food supply. If unadulterated food (which you can surmise is nearly absent in this country) contains ALL the nutrients that a human body needs, and the food-like stuff that is passed off as sustenance here in the US contains only a fraction of said nutrients (say, critical micro-nutrients like selenium, zinc, etc), then a person will have to eat vast quantities of such food-like stuff to get what their body needs. For example, you might need to eat 10 cheeseburgers at Mickey D's (complete guess) to get the same nutrition from an organic, regenerative, grass-fed burger. As Bill Mollison famously said, "Though the problems of the world are increasingly complex, the solutions remain embarrassingly simple." So what is the solution? Find a way to swap out the % of GDP in the US spent on healthcare and food/sustenance production (organic, regenerative, grass-fed ain't cheap, but neither is un-subsidized Ozempic and all of it's side effects).
Big Agra funds the National Dietetics Association and that's how you end up with a diet high in starchy carbs (corn, wheat) promoted as the ideal. And make sure you drink your milk too. I got the dietetics degree only to learn I couldn't promote their unhealthy views of nutrition. So I have 2 four-year degrees, one of which was a waste of money.
Set up your own platform. You know the information you need, so put it out there and gather to you, those who need and want your knowledge.
far too much dependence on processed and fast food
I am appalled when I see what is in
baskets in grocery stores and the line up at fast food
IF they ALL went under, the only loss would be jobs
I grew up without it, even though McDonalds was in vogue then
Mom never brought home
empty calories, 'ersatz' food, as she labeled it
You make an excellent and mostly overlooked root point. It must be further noted that nutrition was a strong consideration when it came to food...until it was conveniently replaced and taken over by the 'calorie,' a rather nonsensical concept...and at a time when 'foods' the like of Crisco were being introduced. Yet another quinky-dink in history.
The most disturbing thing we can see from your excellent report and others (like Sasha Latypova's this week) is that we still can't trust the FDA and CDC, even with the new administration, which is doing some good things but is still not fully facing up to the deadly mRNA poisons and the machine that promotes them. And yet political leaders and judges and corporate boards and other govt agencies and hospital administrators and school administrators all look to FDA and CDC for their guidance on whether to mandate things that have been proven to be deadly.
The current Resident’s the Cooler. It’s just another 4 year con and will remain such no matter who’s selected, indefinitely.
I think the temptation to use Ozempic is understandable. Even eating well is not enough to keep weight off, portion control is vital. Long-term fasting has different effects on the male versus female body. Not enough emphasis is given to teaching portion control, so it is so easy to overeat and be unclear on how much food to plate. We live in a drug culture and even though advertising lists side effects in tiny writing at the bottom of the screen, the psychological manipulation with powerful marketing techniques holds sway. Pharma has no intentions of shrinking its profit margins, which is what will happen with the implementation of MAHA. There is a market for health aids that is emerging, and there is a huge upside potential for profit remaining. I hope the latter outcompetes pharma for customers.
The DASH Diet is just as effective as Ozempic and without the cost or dangerous side effects. But you won’t hear this because big Pharma is pushing a narrative: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/the-hidden-struggle-in-health-care
I took this long ago when it was a diabetes drug. The side effects were awful so I stopped it rather quickly.
Now, as a weight loss drug it is being given with a much higher dose so I can’t imagine anyone taking it willingly IF they are given honest advice about it!
So why do doctors not like a high-fat, high-protein diet? It does, in fact, make you curb hunger. Because it does this so well, people have gone days without being hungry. But it sounds like the story is that people are permanently hooked on drugs and sugar and are always going to the doctor for the next fix, which doesn't work but makes the medical system rich.
The fact is that pharma purposely builds bad side effects into EVERY med the create, to cause you to have to get another med to subdue the side effects of the first pill, while giving you more side effects you'll have to get another med for that will have it's own array of side effects.
And, bottom line, they are part of the eugenics/climate nitwits that want to kill off as many humans as possible.
My 29 year old daughter is on a med for depression and also one for ADHD, and she had to add a third to deal with excessive sweating caused by one (or both) of them. That medication, in turn, led to a dry mouth, and she cracked a tooth. So that means dental work with no dental insurance. At some point, you have to wonder if this "If you give a mouse a cookie" drug routine is worth it. Me personally? I feel people should consider medication only after first trying a routine of healthy eating, moving their body, touching grass, limiting screen time, etc.
Very good. And there are many natural alternatives for any physical and mental malady that God has given us.
I don't think God gives us those things, but yes, I get your point. I am currently reading a book called Unshrunk, by Laura Delano, chronicling her years of being on antidepressants, in and out of treatment centers, doing intensive psychotherapy, etc. I highly recommend it for her discussion of Big Pharma and the 'shrink industry,' and how little they seem to really help most people.
As I mentioned in an earlier comment, I researched into all the research on SSRIs for a medical book, so had access to all the medical data bases, so I knew 25 years ago that pharma companies knew from their own studies they quickly deep-sixed, that their meds had no therapeutic value and caused suicides, zombi-ism and other horrible effects. They don't want any of their meds to cure anything, but to keep you just alive enough to carry on for years as a slave to the chain of meds you end up on. As a former WHO board members said, they purposefully build side-effects into all meds, to create a chain reaction requiring another med for the side-effects ad infinitum.
Wow, given your background, I really appreciate your comment. I myself had been on one or more antidepressants (many different ones) for around 18 years until I finally realized that the only reason I stayed on them is because I feared getting worse if I went off of meds. I think there are many who stay on medication who probably think the same way: they don't really realize they're not any better off with them, but they fear rocking the boat and getting worse without them.
I'm glad you got free. I hope you're doing well. There are a few cases where a person can have a physiological disfunction causing depression. But, docs never consider or look for it, and just write a scrip. Many folks are just having a bad period in their lives, and instead of encouraging building coping muscles, the doc writes a scrip. Pharma gives vacation packages, plain old cash, etc., to prolific scrip writers. As they say, follow the money. You're not valuable well.
Also, and I've had to take my own advice on this, it is important for a person to develop the discipline to unspin negative thinking. You can see my moniker, and I use it to remind myself that there is a difference in cynicism and realism, and insisting on realism instead of cynicism, can allow one to be free of the darkness that comes with cynicism.
Sorry to bloviate so much but I have so many friends whom I have watched have their lives destroyed with SSRIs, it really means a lot to me.
Remember how they kept telling people not to worry about health and fitness or weight loss during all those long months of lockdown while many stress ate and didn't go out to exercise? Then after the world re-opened, they suddenly put drugs like Ozempic out and celebrities start encouraging skinniness again.
Oh, great. The anti-ozempic talking points have been ordered to resurface again. You can all get off your judgmental high horses of half-truths and minimal understanding based on fear porn like this. You have no real understanding of this field of medicine, and even the Midwestern Doctor, as amazing as he is, makes false parallels and leaves out big chunks of nuanced information when he goes after this. Ozempic sucks, sure, but the GLP-1 field is evolving rapidly. And I know many people who have gotten their lives back and off ALL THEIR MEDS because of this intervention.
Stop it with the fear porn. Propaganda works both ways. Remember that.
I am an integratively trained allopathic physician and have been practicing for more than 25 years and I continue to practice on a daily basis. What is in this post does not resonate with me. I would like for the author of this post to please have a meaningful discussion and also disclose where the key points are referenced from and or disclose the “scientific” studies or case studies that is the basis of this please. I also heard today that Medicare is not going to continue covering these medications for obesity so whoever is saying this in the chat is utterly misinformed. Please clarify the veracity of what is claimed in this post. I think we need to have a much more significant and nuanced discussion about these GLP-1 medications. I come from a place of personal experience, not a preformed opinion, but real life on the ground use with a varied population.. I hope the writer of this post can come forward and have an honest discussion. Every decision that we make in life, including even getting in our car and driving, has some risk and we balance always risk with benefit.. it is there that a nuance discussion begins.
I get attacked in these communities every time I defend peptide use. People legitimately do not understand them and base their opinions off of ridiculous, overblown claims such as in this article. I am not a doctor, just an avid health researcher. And the reality is that RFK can say we’ll just give people three organic meals a day and a gym membership and problem solved all he wants, but it’s not that simple. And everyone, except the judgy people here, knows it.
I have been sincerely working with hundreds if not thousands of people and it’s just not that simple to fix what ails the American lifestyle. We live in a stew of dopamine addiction , toxicity from all sources, disconnection from each other and the natural rhythms and impulses.
In all my years as a physician, I have never been able to get blood sugar controlled as quickly as with these medications. Insulin comes nowhere close to the effectiveness I have witnessed with Ozem pic. . Also, these medicines provide what I view as a temporary aid in making the changes that actually result in better outcomes better mood better motivation, more exercise, and better eating choices. I view them as a way to increase natural GLP one activity that probably has been hijacked in a negative way with our modern lifestyle.
I do admit that most medications on the market in the United States do not lower mortality or result in better outcomes . I do not feel that we should blanketly reject every pharmaceutical, but judge it based on whether it leads us in a direction that we need. I look at this whole situation in a much more balanced way because I have a significant amount of experience using these medicines. I almost never see more depression with them, but people report to me. They feel better almost instantaneously and it even appears that they treat underlying depression.
What is Dr Oz's stance on Ozembic since he's the head of Medicare? We didn't like Oz when he ran for Senator in Pennsylvania because he promoted strange supplements that didn't work because of the ad revenue to his TV show.
The incredible positive transformations, of so many thousands of people’s lives should not be overlooked. Most people get no side-effects, completely change their lifestyles & wean of the medication easily. This posting is missing that side of the story. If you were massively obese, incredibly sick, most of your life & now an active, fit & happy person, for the first time in your life, AND now off all BP meds, heart meds, thyroid meds etc. You’d have a much different view.
do people really wean off easily?
I’m just learning, but seems those that have reached their goal weight, many down 200-400 lbs., move to a low maintenance dose to allow their bodies to re-adjust. Completely weaning I am sure takes years, just as it took to get over 400 lbs. But lifestyle changes need to be seriously ingrained & activity levels staying high.
I have a old ass sister than lines up for whatever poison she saw on TV yesterday. I can't even talk to her anymore. Her brain is fried. Her life is over. She is to dumb to see what has happened to her.
Drugs are NEVER the solution.
They are the problem !!!
We are two years into this magic solution to excess weight?
IF someone starves themselves, there is weight loss, and that is what most of
these people do. There is significant proof now of what they are doing and not
doing.
ANYONE can lose weight that way. The world suffers from famine, which
results in starvation and DEATH
It is NOT easy to lose it and keep it off, but they want a magic FIX
That is what dieting is about.
It takes careful adherence to clean eating and exercise to challenge a body
I am someone who gained weight when a brain tumor began prompting my pituitary to
pump out excess CORTISOL, which not only adds excess weight but actually
destroys organs of the body.
MDs finally figured out that I had CUSHINGS, but ONLY because a naturopathic
physician cared enough to dig deeply to find out what was wrong
MDs had written me off as female hysteria due to the bizarre symptoms I was having
while it devastated not only my body but my mental well being.
I am STILL working to return to what I was before the Cushings. . . . by clean eating,
which I had been doing before it began,
and working out 6 days weekly (alternating cardio/strength training)
It is coming off WITHOUT shooting up Ozempic, but it IS daily adherence.
THEY will rue the day Ozempic etc. was ever bleated as the ONLY true way to lose it
I just shake my head quietly at the folks here defending Ozempic, Wegovy, etc. You know we'll be seeing it on the cover of Time magazine, etc., in a couple years in a "shocking" story "uncovering the truth behind the miracle weight loss drug."
Indeed. Even now some with such severe gastroparesis that they must seek help at an ER. Some have needed surgery due to intestinal blocks. Ine women spoke of chronic diarrhea even after she stopped. Now a story about vision problems
The problems are endless.