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ARG3X plorer's avatar

I ran some statistics years ago and found 19 out of 20, young, white male, active shooters had been on Ritalin.

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Bob Biermann's avatar

And all were on anti-depressents.

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Davey J's avatar

“Mental health “ pills are most certainly a root cause of a lot of societies problems .

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Reality Seeker's avatar

A trend is not 10 years, including a lot of years before the trans issue and larger numbers of people literally put substances in their bodies that would ravage their minds and bodies. There is a current uptick in shootings by trans and others committed to their ideology.

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Faith&FitnessMama's avatar

Yes. Psychiatric drugs are a huge problem. They numb you so you feel less sadness & less joy. That has catastrophic effects.

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Jim Mueller's avatar

I wonder if we'll ever hear what this one was on...

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Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

Photos of the alleged killer on the stairwells shows a backpack and no gun. When he jumped off the roof, it looked like he had something that was about half the size of a rifle. They found a rifle, which I don’t believe can be broken down in the woods just too many questions that makes things suspicious..

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Jb's avatar

and what about the 2 guys behind him who appear to be making gestures or "signs" right before he was shot? Something is not right as usual.

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Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

Making sure who the target was? There is no question that there are human beings who are susceptible to hypnosis and can be manipulated to do things that they normally would not do. I have seen it in action and know it to be true. I have seen a hypnotist make a young man believe he is a rigid board. For some Reason I have not seen hypnotist do their work in public in recent years. It was popular in the 1950s.!

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Shirley Histen's avatar

I saw articles about the guy that (allegedly) shot the United Health Care CEO. His parents had not seen him several months and did not know his whereabouts. I think some sort of mind altering practices were done on him. Wasn't he sitting rather nonchalantly at a McDonald's when he was apprehended? There's also some nefarious connection to Nancy Pelosi.

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DrFred57's avatar

Could he simply be completely whacked?

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DrFred57's avatar

And I've seen swamis make themselves as hard as a board. Most mentalists are charlatans just like "mind readers."

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Old Biddy's avatar

'Most' is the correct word but not all. In the 70's I saw a documentary where a young nervous child had teeth extracted, without any anaesthetic, after being hypnotised. The dentist talked calmly to her & told her to push & hold down [with one of her hands hanging down at the side of the dentist's chair] an imaginary balloon in an imaginary bucket of water throughout the procedure. The procedure was aired & you could see her hand bobbing up & down in her attempt to keep the [imaginary] balloon under the water's surface. It convinced me anyway, however, I have seen a couple of hypnotists on stage & my opinion of them were that they were enticing the audience to join in with the crowd mentality & hysteria. x

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DrFred57's avatar

Security members "sign" to each other all the time. This all of a sudden is unusual and suspect? When you're in a crowded area like this, you deliberately use SIGNS rather than voices. Even radios are not often used because of the distraction.

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Jb's avatar

Yes I realize that, however, these behaviors seemed choreographed right as the question to him about trans shootings and then he was shot. The timing was almost like it was all planned?

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DrFred57's avatar

I don't know. Nothing seemed choreographed to me, but when there's a video making those allegations with lines and arrows drawn on the screen, it plants ideas. Just saying. Tyler Robinson confessed to the killing. If you believe what you are saying then Tyler is either the fall guy or the guys on the ground close to Kirk were in cahoots. I don't buy it at all, I'm sorry. Charlie Kirk has been to so many colleges/universities for these debates (inside and outside venues), but for some reason NOW in Utah was the time for guys near him to help take him out?

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Faith&FitnessMama's avatar

The one guy was his very good friend, Christian apologist, Frank Turek. You can go to Frank’s instagram page to see the statement and video footage. The other was Kirk’s security detail.

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Dash Jones's avatar

As somebody who was on Ritalin in its experimental stages in the early 1990s I can vouch for the fact that it induces sociopathy when used for an extended period.

I was well on my way there until I missed a dose and realized my ability to think and make decisions had been taken away.

I felt like my actions and existence had no consequences until that time.

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JHOC's avatar

How did you get off Ritalin?

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Dash Jones's avatar

I got off of Ritalin cold turkey at the age of 12. When my parents would have me take the pill I would make myself sick to get it out.

After a couple of weeks of this my parents began to notice and asked me why. I told them that when I was on the pills I couldn't think. I wasn't myself and felt like I didn't exist.

My parents luckily understood the warning signs and didn't make me take it anymore. I didn't realize until years later when I learned the medical definition of sociopathy in my teens that I made the connection.

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Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

Was the shooter on Ritalin?

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Dash Jones's avatar

Though now that I think about it, any use of SSRI or similar drug would be redacted from toxicology results...

People notice a pattern and many efforts are made to try to bury it.

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Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

Protecting Big Pharma?

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Dash Jones's avatar

You hit the nail on the head. Big pharma is the most effective means of genocide in America. The government is not shy about wanting to control and eventually eliminate almost all of us, so of course they will protect the machinations of genocide.

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Dash Jones's avatar

I do not know. However if he was that explains everything. The mind becomes putty and is easily shaped.

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Dawn C's avatar

He confessed.

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Old Biddy's avatar

Why run then?

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DrFred57's avatar

There is a video of the alleged shooter walking through a neighborhood on his way to the university. He is limping slightly and it is likely due to the fact that he had the rifle stuck down one leg of his pants. A video later shows him leaving the scene walking and running without a limp, carrying the rifle wrapped in a towel.

Funny how so many come up with so many theories. I've already read that one of the people standing next to Charlie either gave the signal to the rooftop shooter or shot Kirk himself. A bolt-action 30-06 isn't normally broken down. The video of him jumping off the roof is fairly grainy.

Did anyone read comments by one of America's greatest snipers ever - Sergeant Nicholas Ranstad? In it he made some observations BEFORE the gun was even located. He said it was likely a high-powered rifle. He said the shooter was likely right handed and someone who had gone to the range numerous times. During the actual shooting, the shooter was probably aiming for Charlie's head but instead of "squeezing" the trigger, because of the tremendous adrenaline rushing through him, he "pulled" or jerked the trigger, which forced the gun down to the right ever so slightly, hitting Kirk in the neck.

Interestingly enough, Tyler Robinson's father is either currently in or retired from nearly 30 years in the sheriff's department at Washington County Utah. Tyler Robinson was raised around guns.

I don't believe the gun that was located in the woods had been broken down. It was simply wrapped in a towel. He could have slung it over his back. The thing that was half the size of a rifle was likely his backpack.

Since they only released STILLS of the alleged shooter on the stairwell, we cannot see if he is "limping" there or not. If he had it stuffed down his pants and down one leg, he would not have taken it out until he got onto the roof and my assumption was he used a stairwell to get to the roof. When he chose to leave the area, the quickest route out was off the roof, over the side and sprinting across the lawn to the same neighborhood he came through to get to the school.

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Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

So.. how did a rifle get from the roof top to the woods and the shooter didn’t carry it?

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DrFred57's avatar

Can you prove he wasn't carrying it from the roof? When I watched the video, it was fairly grainy. Is there another video that is NOT so grainy? If so, I'd like to see it. You sound like you are not convinced he shot Kirk even though he confessed to it.

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Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

It was stated by someone that he had his back pack with him when he jumped down and it certainly could not have a rifle in it that is at least 2 ½ feet long. Then of course why would he abandon the incriminating rifle and not take it with him. It doesn’t add up. There is more to this event just like Butler.

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DrFred57's avatar

Okay.

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Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

Slam dunk if he confessed. Why would he not just leave the rifle on the roof top? I think he may have been the shooter and guided. It is not a cake walk to plan an event like this. If they find the bullet to match it to the rifle it is done.

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Bob Biermann's avatar

Often, because of fire codes you can get on a roof, but it often locks behind you so people can't break in that way.

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DrFred57's avatar

Thank you for that. I still think it was better for him (his thinking) to simply let himself down off the roof and run across the lawn. Of course, he left his palm print on the roof and a large footprint on the ground because of the height of the drop.

I'm also assuming that had he wanted to get back down using the stairwell, he could have slightly propped the door ajar, but then he would never have known if he was going to run into anyone on his way down. At least dropping down from the roof gave him a clear vantage point to see who was around if anyone.

What angers me in all of this is that Trump was almost assassinated by a guy on a rooftop in Butler PA. Kirk WAS assassinated by a guy on a rooftop in Utah. Why isn't security dealing with those possibilities? Supposedly danger was considered "low" at the university in Utah.

Michael Knowles has had issues as well in some of the situations he's been in. The problem is that the Left have nothing intelligent to say in response to anything. So that leaves them with ONE option - murder.

I've never seen a debate that Kirk did not "win." He has always responded to everyone with decency, charity, intelligence and with plenty of actual facts to back up his comments, something the Left knows nothing about.

Unfortunately, I don't think Charlie Kirk will be the last victim of the Left's fascist RAGE.

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Paula's avatar

Playing right into Trump's playbook. Blame the left. Don't talk to me about intelligence.

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DrFred57's avatar

Who's fault is it if it's not the Left's here? Are you aware that Tyler was also part of AntiFa Discord groups, who believe it's their job to exterminate Christians?

Look, if you don't like the way I think or what I write, just scroll past. I don't feel like arguing with you and won't. Thanks.

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Old Biddy's avatar

Where did you get this info?

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Henry Katz's avatar

Exactly, without an entry video we cannot know how the rifle was brought in.

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Moxa1man's avatar

I want to know how the rifle was brought out. After watching the video of his escape at least 10 times I fail to see a rifle. I don't believe a rifle like the one supposedly used can be taken down.

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Henry Katz's avatar

Will ballistics be released?

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DrFred57's avatar

Other video may crop up. The one I saw of him walking toward and then away from the university was clearly security cameras from a house.

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Darius's avatar

That rifle is old school and not easily quickly broken down. The scope would needed sighting if it was removed and replaced. It is all possible but from what we've been told and shown, not enough to trust.

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Intellect's avatar

The Gun was already placed on the Roof for the shooter to use.

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Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

I don’t think he acted alone especially since he embraced Antifa!

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Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

That’s why FBI director used the word suspects today! Plural!

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Paula's avatar

I agree. Where was the gun and how did it end up in the woods if he didn't have it when he left the roof. I doubt the rifle breaks down and that he put it in his pack then dumped it in the woods. There should be fingerprints on the rifle. None have been reported. Did he even pass the woods when he left the scene? I don't believe their narrative. Took too long to find him and the videos of him-time enough to fabricate the narrative and place an unseen gun when he left the roof in the woods. Where's his fingerprints on the rifle.

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DrFred57's avatar

There are videos on Amir Tsarfati's Telegram channel I believe that show the shooter walking/limping TOWARD the university and later AWAY from the university seemingly carrying "something" in a towel. I'm GUESSING he wiped the rifle down with the towel he wrapped it in.

I just went back and rewatched the video of the suspect walking through the neighborhood toward the university. The video Amir posted is from TMZ. There is another video I cannot locate right now of the suspect running/walking away from the university toward the woods.

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Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

I saw the video of him jumping down. He didn’t pick up a rifle after jumping down and only hung on to his back pack.

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Bob Biermann's avatar

You're overthinking this...

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Isabel's avatar

The point was, the number of trans shooters vs the percentage of the trans population in general. So if “only” 6 or 7 (hypothetically speaking) of the mass shooters are trans, but trans individuals make up only 1% of the population, than statistically, this IS an enormous red flag. Charlie would have explained this better, but that’s my take😳

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DaughteroftheKing's avatar

Charlie did not simply recognize the value of faith for Christian society, however – he lived it and experienced it personally.

In an interview with Russell Brand last year, Kirk explained, “I'm nothing without Jesus.”

"I'm a sinner. I fall incredibly short of the glory of God. We all do. I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade, and it's the most important decision I've ever made and everything I do incorporates Jesus Christ."

Just a few months ago, in an interview with Jack Selby of The Iced Coffee Hour, Kirk shared what he’d most like to be remembered for if he were to die.

“If everything completely goes away, how do you want to be remembered?” Selby asked.

“If I die?” Kirk clarified.

“Everything just goes away,” Selby pressed. “If you could be associated with one thing, how would you want to be remembered?”

“I want to be remembered for courage for my faith,” Kirk replied. “That would be the most important thing. The most important thing is my faith.”

Just four days before he was killed on September 6, he posted on X:

“Jesus defeated death so you can live.”

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DaughteroftheKing's avatar

Truths that Charlie Kirk never stopped emphasizing:

"When people stop talking, that’s when you get violence.”

“The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. The only way out of the labyrinth of suffering is to forgive. Welcome without judgment, love without condition, forgive without limit. Always forgive your enemies. Nothing annoys them so much.”

“When things are moving very fast and people are losing their minds, it’s important to stay grounded. Turn off your phone, read scripture, spend time with friends, and remember, Internet fury is not real life.”

“When you stop having a human connection with someone you disagree with, it becomes a lot easier to commit violence. What we as a culture have to get back to is being able to have reasonable agreement where violence is not an option.”

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Linda Mihalic's avatar

But what I would really like to know is whether Hunter Kozak actually <<learned>> anything? Does he still believe the trans people are peaceful after he watch this murder?

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Paula's avatar

Another non thinking right leaning MAGA. The shooter was not gay.

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Linda Mihalic's avatar

Please reread my comment. I do not believe he is gay, not am I MAGA.

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Paula's avatar

Maybe you need some writing lessons then.

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Georgia Gage's avatar

The left peaceful? Who is he kidding besides himself? I wish we could ship them all to Saturn. They are soulless, unfit to live amongst decent people.

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Paula's avatar

Apparently divide and conquer is working for you too.

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Mike Doyle's avatar

People like you are the susceptible ones

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Paula's avatar

Susceptible to what? Government propaganda?

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Swan's avatar

We remember all those incredibly peaceful protests in the summer of 2020...

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Laurel's avatar

Catherine Austin Fitts related that almost every city experiencing G Floyd-related riots had them in the neighborhooods of Federal Reserve banks, and hugely advantaged developers who cashed in on federal tax relief for "redevelopmenta' in those special zones.

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DrFred57's avatar

Just curious...when do the "rightwing" riots start over the MURDER of Charlie Kirk? That's usually the MO when something occurs on the Left side of the aisle...

Asking for a friend.

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John Carlson's avatar

I mean and in classic fashion he was making a nonsensical argument. Charlie didn’t answer that they were a sizable portion, he said “too many”.

Now the most infamous dumbass argument. I do feel sorry for him, his life is gonna change forever for being confident enough to step up to a mic.

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Primum non nocere's avatar

Lifetime risk of dying in car crash is 1 in 107. Unless youre the "1" does it matter if it was 1007 instead of 107.

Such a intellectually dishonest approach to argue with statistics.

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Mac's avatar

Well just to quell your suspicions, the rifle found has the alleged killers palm print and finger prints. And just an fyi, his parents turned him in to authorities.

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Paula's avatar

It is too easy to believe what you are told and have no personal knowledge of. Just like all the Fentanyl on that Venezuelan fishing boat. What a bunch of suckers for lies.

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pogi's avatar

Will he adhere to his belief that the left is peaceful after the assassination and the leftist vitriol?

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warren smith's avatar

God Bless Charlie Kirk, his wife Erika and their two children! This kind of thing should NEVER, EVER happen. In the two days since Charlie Kirk’s death, fortunately we have had multiple ‘news conferences’ to keep us all informed. Contrast this to another VERY famous similar circumstance, the assassination attempt of DJT. We have yet to have a public press conference on what happened there. Not from the Secret Service, not the FBI, nor the Butler County Sheriff. Many, many questions, but absolutely NO answers. Very strange.

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VICTORIASPANGLER6591's avatar

It’s coming

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Paula's avatar

Should be. They've had plenty of time to fabricate it.

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warren smith's avatar

Sure hope so!

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George Marshall's avatar

All this being an example after the fact...new solution....it is time to remove the dem's power in congress and all the states......How about all of DC...They are obsolete....

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Barbara Charis's avatar

Trans-people have had their brain chemistry altered with chemicals...and it has caused a problem with many of them...They do not have the ability to analyze or think rationally.

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