Therapists also never hear or report on those who improved, because they stop going to therapy. That said, SSRIs almost ruined our marriage, until we found the only medicine that could help - light.
Hi Roman happy to hear SSRIs didn't ruin your marriage. I know they ruined me in so many ways but I am weaning myself off of them I hope it works. Stay in the light. Ken
Every bad thing you read about SSRI/SNRI drugs are true. I am currently trying to get off of Cymbalta. My doctor supports me getting off medications I don't need. I got on Cymbalta in 2020, more at the suggestion of my old doctor, not because I was complaining about depression, but he asked if I was depressed. Regardless, I want off. I have dropped successfully from 60 mg day to 30 mg day. I had withdrawal symptoms for about 4 days, not severe, just a weird feeling of unrealness, but nothing I couldn't handle. I'm about a month into the 30 mg dose. Next, since they do not make a 15 mg, I will have to use a scale that can measure milligrams and open capsules and weigh the little time release balls, then weigh out half, and put them in an empty capsule from Amazon. Going to give it another month at least, before dropping again. Also working on eliminating blood pressure medications, two, I average 128/61, and do not need them anymore, if I ever did. I was diabetic, type 2, about 10 years, beat it in 2024 by losing 70 lbs. The Dr says you need to take BP meds if diabetic. Screw them. The withdrawal from Cymbalta, so far has been tolerable for me, so I am lucky, not typical. We'll see when I cut it further. My doctor now is great about helping me to get off of unnecessary medications, she supports me by prescribing lower doses pretty much at my request. I fired the other one long ago, over trying to get me to take statins, which I refused.
While all these situations are certainly alarming when looking at the big picture, what you don't write about these stats are as important as what you do write; when dealing with emotional issues, i.e., mental illness each case is a completely separate story. Each person reacts differently to these meds & it sometimes takes months or even a year to get a person on the right one or the right combination. Take me for example, depression runs in my family, my father struggled w/it all his life, having to resort to the nightmarish One Flew Over the Cookoo's Nest electroconvulsive therapy (shock treatment) at one point in the 50's & it well may have saved his life as I'm pretty sure he was suicidal at one point. I too have suffered w/it's dark clutches, or my "black dog" as Winston Churchill famously called it, starting w/Zoloft for what was at first situational depression; it basically sucked as it did help with the overwhelming effects of the 100 lb weight sitting on my chest, the sexual side effects are a prominent side effect, quite a hindrance to a sexually active 35-year-old man. Upon retirement, here it comes roaring back, only this time it was accompanied by panic attacks for which I was prescribed Seroquel, an anti-psychotic, later switching to Celexa, yet after around 5 years it wasn't enough but by now, being in the "geriatric category" (ugh) I couldn't increase the dosage so my psych added back Seroquel as an adjunct, which helped immensely, as well as helping me sleep much better. While this has its downside too, I'm more functional than I was 3 months ago. Whew, while I write all this not in an attempt to blast my "sob story" all over social media, I do it to show how complicated my personal treatment has been & I left out a couple important side issues which for the sake of brevity I didn't mention; it also reflects how complicated each and every case can be & points out that there can be a nearly infinite number of plans like this, all of which must be tailored to the individual. The statistics do not & cannot reflect the same complicated challenges faced by prescribing physicians, P.A.s & N.P.s, so while stats are important, they're not as important as those for treating conventional & ofttimes more straightforward diseases & conditions.
I am going to drop this unrelated comment in here since the guy who doesn’t trust the media became the media. I can’t message the account without subscribing so this is the best I can do I guess. I made this account specifically to put out my amateur research on COVID and HIV. Maybe by some miracle someone reads it and it gets traction. I’m about done mass emailing it to every podcaster and media outlet.
The homicidal, suicidal, impulses are real. If you think about the consequences of such actions, that logic pulls you out of that horrible thought process.
Seems like many are unable to focus on the consequences and end up going off the deep end.
Therapists also never hear or report on those who improved, because they stop going to therapy. That said, SSRIs almost ruined our marriage, until we found the only medicine that could help - light.
Hi Roman happy to hear SSRIs didn't ruin your marriage. I know they ruined me in so many ways but I am weaning myself off of them I hope it works. Stay in the light. Ken
Thanks Ken. Circadian rhythms are king. Do you get out in the morning to see the sunrise?
Yes sir I am an early riser! Take care buddy.
Nice. The other part that helped us was reducing the 99% of light that is invisible, e.g. EMF in the form of dirty electricity and Wi-Fi.
Thanks Roman I will look into that.
For sure. FYI:
https://romanshapoval.substack.com/i/163141451/an-electric-power-couple
Thank you so much for the very important work you do in getting this the exposure it desperately needs.
Every bad thing you read about SSRI/SNRI drugs are true. I am currently trying to get off of Cymbalta. My doctor supports me getting off medications I don't need. I got on Cymbalta in 2020, more at the suggestion of my old doctor, not because I was complaining about depression, but he asked if I was depressed. Regardless, I want off. I have dropped successfully from 60 mg day to 30 mg day. I had withdrawal symptoms for about 4 days, not severe, just a weird feeling of unrealness, but nothing I couldn't handle. I'm about a month into the 30 mg dose. Next, since they do not make a 15 mg, I will have to use a scale that can measure milligrams and open capsules and weigh the little time release balls, then weigh out half, and put them in an empty capsule from Amazon. Going to give it another month at least, before dropping again. Also working on eliminating blood pressure medications, two, I average 128/61, and do not need them anymore, if I ever did. I was diabetic, type 2, about 10 years, beat it in 2024 by losing 70 lbs. The Dr says you need to take BP meds if diabetic. Screw them. The withdrawal from Cymbalta, so far has been tolerable for me, so I am lucky, not typical. We'll see when I cut it further. My doctor now is great about helping me to get off of unnecessary medications, she supports me by prescribing lower doses pretty much at my request. I fired the other one long ago, over trying to get me to take statins, which I refused.
Too late for me 😢 the sink fuks that approved and watched the results need to be punished with their own medicine
While all these situations are certainly alarming when looking at the big picture, what you don't write about these stats are as important as what you do write; when dealing with emotional issues, i.e., mental illness each case is a completely separate story. Each person reacts differently to these meds & it sometimes takes months or even a year to get a person on the right one or the right combination. Take me for example, depression runs in my family, my father struggled w/it all his life, having to resort to the nightmarish One Flew Over the Cookoo's Nest electroconvulsive therapy (shock treatment) at one point in the 50's & it well may have saved his life as I'm pretty sure he was suicidal at one point. I too have suffered w/it's dark clutches, or my "black dog" as Winston Churchill famously called it, starting w/Zoloft for what was at first situational depression; it basically sucked as it did help with the overwhelming effects of the 100 lb weight sitting on my chest, the sexual side effects are a prominent side effect, quite a hindrance to a sexually active 35-year-old man. Upon retirement, here it comes roaring back, only this time it was accompanied by panic attacks for which I was prescribed Seroquel, an anti-psychotic, later switching to Celexa, yet after around 5 years it wasn't enough but by now, being in the "geriatric category" (ugh) I couldn't increase the dosage so my psych added back Seroquel as an adjunct, which helped immensely, as well as helping me sleep much better. While this has its downside too, I'm more functional than I was 3 months ago. Whew, while I write all this not in an attempt to blast my "sob story" all over social media, I do it to show how complicated my personal treatment has been & I left out a couple important side issues which for the sake of brevity I didn't mention; it also reflects how complicated each and every case can be & points out that there can be a nearly infinite number of plans like this, all of which must be tailored to the individual. The statistics do not & cannot reflect the same complicated challenges faced by prescribing physicians, P.A.s & N.P.s, so while stats are important, they're not as important as those for treating conventional & ofttimes more straightforward diseases & conditions.
I am going to drop this unrelated comment in here since the guy who doesn’t trust the media became the media. I can’t message the account without subscribing so this is the best I can do I guess. I made this account specifically to put out my amateur research on COVID and HIV. Maybe by some miracle someone reads it and it gets traction. I’m about done mass emailing it to every podcaster and media outlet.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-75965-2
These weight loss drugs need to be banned. They are worse than the others
The homicidal, suicidal, impulses are real. If you think about the consequences of such actions, that logic pulls you out of that horrible thought process.
Seems like many are unable to focus on the consequences and end up going off the deep end.