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Kelli Mickeliunas's avatar

My husband and I have been on statins for over 10 years, and when I found out that it leads to dementia and Alzheimer’s, and I also found out that you need the cholesterol in your liver to feed your brain, I decided to get off of them. When I went to the doctor and he did a blood test and it was higher than 163, he said, did you stop taking your statins and I said yes, and told him that it’s not good for you and that your body needs that cholesterol to feed your brain. He told me that if he does a blood test and my so-called bad cholesterol is high, he has to prescribe statins or they take away his license to practice. The AMA and pharmaceutical companies own the doctors.

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SteelJ's avatar

Sure, that's the way the system works, everybody should know that by now. My wife and I have the same GP who we see once a year only because we get free blood panel now that we're medicare age. He always says "I know you don't want any vaccines, but I have to ask - would you like a flu, shingles, and pneumonia vaccine?" We say "not a chance", and bless his heart, he says "yeah, me neither".

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John Roberts's avatar

I quit mine as well a few years ago.

When I went in for my yearly visit, required by the company I worked for at the time, she told me all the bad things that would happen to me if I didn’t start taking them again. I said no thanks.

Then she had her nurse call me the next day to give me the third degree.

Needless to say I don’t see her anymore !!!

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Barbara Charis's avatar

Agreed! John D Rockefeller promoted the AMA in 1910 and got doctors to join by promising them HIGHER INCOME by selling his patented, petroleum-based drugs and he also promised PRESTIGE from all the money they would make. He did not promise better health for their patients. This was the real start of the Medical Industry. Its focus was on the money it would make selling its drugs. Doctors really aren't taught what occurs internally, when toxic substances enter the bloodstream...They break down and damage the organs, the glands and the cells. Nutrients from Natural unprocessed food are the particles, which belong in the bloodstream. They nourish, not destroy, the internal workings of the human body. They provide energy and good health for humans. Mankind lived eons of time on nutrients from natural food.

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John Linder's avatar

He was lying to you.

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Kelli Mickeliunas's avatar

I don’t believe so, follow the money…

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Missy Maleng's avatar

AMA is not who takes medical licenses away

It is the state boards of each state they practice in

These days it has been used against doctors PA Nurse Practitioners due to writing waivers for covid vax

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Kelli Mickeliunas's avatar

I believe it’s the state board that can take your license away. So if my doctor did not prescribe me statins for having a high, so-called bad cholesterol, they would take his license away.

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Bruce Cain's avatar

They want to kill us, whether that by Statins or financing radical groups to destroy our countries. Everything is centrally orchestrated. They look at us as either useless eaters or useful idiots.

In my last essay I pointed out that all globalist policies - Smart Meters, 5G, the Plandemic, Digital ID etc. -- have been rolled out globally and at the same time. And these policies have all been pushed by the UN/WEF/WHO and funded by globalists like Soros, Bill Gates and many others. In this essay I am exposing the fact that these same billionaires are also funding Left Wing Extremists and Radical Islamic Groups globally and at the same time. Why are they funding these groups that seek to destroy the US and Western Civilization? Shouldn’t they be prosecuted for treason?

Left Wing Extremists and Radical Islamic Groups are being funded by Billionaires Globally

The Globalist Agenda moves forward globally, and at the same time, to divide and conquer WE THE PEOPLE

https://brucecain.substack.com/p/left-wing-extremists-and-radical

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Charles E Robacker's avatar

'They want to kill us'. No, they want to keep us alive, sick, and sicker so that the checks keep coming.

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Percey Blakeney's avatar

One would be a fool to think there are not people who want us all dead for one reason or another.

There, literally, are those who think we people of a certain skin tone should be gone so those of darker skin tones could benefit from the assets we consume. And there are those of lighter skin think the same about those with darker skin.

That aside, I believe it would be as foolish to think every medical professional wants us dead, or that they all conspire to that end.

I got into law after I figured out justice under the law was a purchased thing, and I couldn't afford it.

My relative studies went far beyond what the average attorney is taught. Subsequently, I met a lot of people with a lot of theories and knowledge useful to and/or pertinent to working in that world. Many times did I hear people talk about schemes that painted every judge as part of a conspiracy.

Common sense and experience told me there were unwritten games afoot, but those things, also, told me it was at or near impossible claimed conspiracies could exist because the scale would be so grand they could not be kept secret, and at least a few would speak out and expose things that would result in others speaking out too and exposing the con.

In the end, it became obvious many were far from competent by way of ignorance, outright stupidity, arrogance and, yes, corruption.

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Bruce Cain's avatar

They're really just good little Nazi's ... simply taking orders from the gov't and administrators. During Covid they pushed the "gene editing" mRNA as well as the Remdesivir that killed nearly half of all that took it. They complied with the gov't suspension of Ivermectin. I've seen this in my role as a Health Care Systems analyst. Over the decades it is the Fed. Gov't and Administers that are calling all the shots. The doctors have essentially become B-role employees.

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Percey Blakeney's avatar

We The People should never forget, government is incapable of either good or ill, and it is only through acts of agents that anything can be done in governments' names.

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Denise's avatar

“We’re following the CDC Guidelines”. 😉

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Percey Blakeney's avatar

And with that comes the shame:

(1) We The People forget we have not just one, but FIFTY-ONE constitutions, and each of them exists to protect us from public agents at all levels of government.

(2) We The People forget, or unaware, the public record is replete with proofs those protections exist for good reason. That is, public agents have been shown to be capable of every evil known to man such that court case files contact seemingly countless instances of agents having been found guilty of rape, murder, negligent homicide, extortion, theft, pedophilia, incest, trafficking in drugs and people, treason, abuse of office, . . . .

(3) Many CDC agents are on the take (i.e., operating under conflicts of interests) by leaving the CDC then working for the artificial persons they okayed drugs for.

(4) The U.S. Supreme Court just declared the CDC was usurping authority it did not have during the covid con and reigned them in. That is, it added to law, but which is a clear violation of constitutional prohibitions against combining two or more branches of government. In this instance, the legislative and executive branches.

(5) CDC agents are not all experts on things biological or medical. Many are just agents dabbling in administrative laws

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Kelli Mickeliunas's avatar

I don’t think so, my mother passed away on February 17, 2020. She had the same doctor and he called me to tell me that the CDC asked him to put coronavirus on our death certificate and they would pay him $13,000. I never heard him so angry. He wanted me to know that my mother died of a massive heart attack and she did not have coronavirus. I didn’t even hear about coronavirus until March 2020.

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Dag Waddell's avatar

One of the first things people should do when the doctor tells them (in the equivalent of a timeshare pitch with charts etc) that statins reduce their chances of a heart attack is say, is that a relative risk reduction or an absolute one doctor?

They tell you that your chances of a heart attack are 50% less with statins but fail to tell you that’s RRR. Take statins perfectly as prescribed for 20 years, chance of no heart attack something like 99.6%, don’t take them chance of no heart attack 99%.

RRR is exactly how they manipulated the reporting to be positive for the Covid shots, and in that case had they not destroyed the control group in the trial they would have had to report by the 3rd and 4th shots the vaccinated were having more Covid. Let alone more all cause injuries and deaths from the first shot. It’s the same game plan every-time, but if you ask these questions you’re told shut up racist, or pedophile or what ever they have to, to either shut you up or smear you.

It’s a dishonest crowd, but haven’t drug dealers always been recognized for that?

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Andrew Devlin's avatar

I stopped statins a few years ago after learning about the dangers they presented. Statins and fenofibrate are almost always prescribed to anyone with diabetes.

I started doing my own research many years ago and found out that fenofibrate was not called for. When I stopped it, my doctor tried to convince me to start again but I refused. I was lucky that I found a new doctor who, when I told him about quitting fenofibrate, he said “good, you don’t need it.”

With statins, I stopped those later and the doctors were relentless in trying to get me to start again. The insurance companies as well have tried to get me back on them. I have had 3 calls this year alone from affiliates of Blue Cross Blue Shield spouting off about my need for statins!

I suspect that statins are much more profitable to pharma as no-one has tried to get me back on fenofibrate for several years but they are constantly harassing me to go back on statins.

It’s never going to happen!

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Mark's avatar

Stay strong, it's your body and life!

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John Linder's avatar

The famous 7-Nation Study by Ancel Keys was originally a 22-Nation study but 15 nations did not support the desired conclusion and were discarded. The documents were discovered about a decade ago in the St. Paul home of a Keys colleague. The data was on old punch cards and a computer whiz from the University of Minnesota was able to transcribe it on to a drive. Keys was famous at the U of M while I was a student there for his dinners with and influence with important Members of Congress on the agriculture committees which had authority over food issues. His access to them was undoubtedly influenced by his friends at Big Sugar.

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Percey Blakeney's avatar

When I had my first of three heart attacks, about 25 years back, I started reading about related matters. From the thousands of pages I read a pattern appeared. It was that injuries to our circulatory system came from inflammation.

That suggests not just sugar being a problem, but those nasty oils, be they called shortening, margarine or what have you, probably, chemicals we are exposed to too, and so on.

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Dan Star's avatar

SickCare! Darrell Tanelian PhD/MD was at UT Southwestern Medical Center when the Doc who created the Statin hid the bad data. This was the second to last nail in the coffin for Darrell leaving medicine in 2006.

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SteelJ's avatar

I'm 74, would never take a statin, don't take any pharmaceuticals, and saw through the scamdemic by March 2020, a pureblood of course. With that out of the way, I'm really tired of the "alternative" health sources telling us how bad statins are, then following up with "Taking a statin every day for 5 years only extends life by 3 to 4 days on average". Huh? If they are so bad, why do they make people live longer? Shouldn't they be shortening lives? I'd really like a thorough discussion of this 3-4 extra days vs so many harms that should shorten lives. It's not convincing to rail against statins if they make one live longer, even a few days. I get the point 3-4 days isn't worth cognitive decline, muscle loss, etc. But still. I've seen the damage of statins firsthand. My mom would get confused and be barely able to get out of her chair. We'd convince her to stop the statins. She'd soon be fine. Go to the doc, she'd be back on statins. And we'd repeat the cycle. So I'm against statins, to be clear. But if they make you live longer, how bad are they, really? Anyone else wonder about this?

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Percey Blakeney's avatar

What a strange post. It might be described as, you argued with yourself and lost.

If you spend that three or four days with tubes sticking out of every orifice, is that really living longer? If your muscles ache, or you can't lift a bag of dog food, is that really an improved life?

THEN there is the obvious, how do you really prove they lived a whopping three days longer? Just the placebo affect, alone, could account for that. Belief really is a powerful thing.

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SteelJ's avatar

What a strange post by you. Alternative health sources tell us statins make you live longer (albeit only a few days). Then cite all the devastating health effects they have. If you don't want some clarification and discussion about that dichotomy, you have blinders on. As far as proving, I doubt it's really proven. I don't believe in studies much, they tend to find what they are intended to find. You don't find it strange so many argue that statins are deadly poison, but then say the make you live longer? I never expected my post to resonate with those who lack curiosity. So feel free to ignore it, since you aren't interested in answers.

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Percey Blakeney's avatar

Snort. You whined about people exposing statins for the scam they are, then explained much of why statins are not just a scam, but a dangerous one.

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SteelJ's avatar

I question why people who think statins are a scam (as I also think) seem to be so proud to proclaim they lengthen lives at all. I would think their debilitating effects, which I've seen firsthand, would make those taking them much less physically active, which should shorten lives. They cause pain and mental issues, which would diminish the will to live, shortening lives. And it seems to me the direct physical effects of statins that cause such symptoms would degrade the body in ways that contribute to frailty and hasten death. So, I'm not a fan of proudly proclaiming they "only extend lives 3-4 days". How in TF do they extend them at all? I think they shorten lives, and that claim needs pushback, not acceptance.

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Denise's avatar

Hey, someone needs to tell this to Dr. Peter McCullough who likes Statins! And recommends and prescribes them routinely! He’s supposedly one of THE TOP CARDIOLOGISTS in the U.S. 🤷‍♀️

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Charles E Robacker's avatar

This is just A GREAT BIG THANK YOU FOX. Dr Marty Makary just announced PUBLICALLY HOW FLAWED The Seven Countries Heart Study was. Now, it should only take about a century for the allopathic model of BIG Medicine to admit it. Then, another century to implement improvements i with a new medicine!!!!!!!!

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Keith Jajko's avatar

Thank you *very* much for this. I just realized a reason for totally unexpected and quite unusual ailments like headaches. My doctor caught onto the fact that I had not picked up a Lipitor prescription in some time. (In reality I stopped taking ALL pills except one mood stabilizer). So he prescribed it, and like an idiot I took them - for just 10 days. That prescription will never be filled again.

I quit sugar in fall 2022 and I became healthier by the day. Beware of the term "pre-diabetic." They can't explain what that even means. Just like they can't explain cholesterol, except (they say) that it causes heart attacks and strokes.

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Bob Poole's avatar

But how do you get off statins if you've been taking them for over 25 years?

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SteelJ's avatar

My wife and I would tell my Mom to quit, she'd quit, and very soon have her mental faculties and physical strength back. She'd go to the doc, go back on statins (she was a sucker), regress, we'd tell her to stop, soon she'd be fine. We went through this cycle quite a few times until she died at 100. So at least in her case it wasn't a difficult process, she just quit swallowing them, followed by no problems, only improvements. Maybe different statins or individuals need some managed withdrawal, she did not.

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Mark's avatar

You just quit

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Tony's avatar

Great article but even you guys don’t understand the importance of sunlight and proper UVB light and sunrise and artificial light after sunset is the true root cause of heart disease.

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JFlora's avatar

We are not that evolved, eat like our ancestors.

Our ancestors didn’t eat refined sugar and bleached flour.

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Janet Zampieri's avatar

Sugar isn't the guilty culprit, either. It's the processed foods and restaurant food and all the seed oils in them. Look into the Bioenergetics program and Dr. Ray Peat's work.

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