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JasonWickBatStroke's avatar

Sorry(not) to break it to you MAGA, however someone needs to say it. Susie Wiles is DeepState. Again for the second time Trump filled his cabinet with betrayers and backstabbers. It’s called political theater and we have front row seats.

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E. Grogan's avatar

Trump did that to expose these people. That's exactly what he's doing now; he exposes the deep state players by praising them. We are meant to research them. Yes, it's a lot of work but it's well worth the effort. I've watched Trump closely for a long time, he works in VERY unusual ways.

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Kmari's avatar

I don’t believe in perfect except for Christ and I don’t believe in white hats or 5D chess. It seems to be the same damn soap opera

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al jenkins's avatar

E- G just rules this Board today - just make sure u scroll down for her additional 8 or 9 comments - taking EVERY fast ball, every curve & just hitting it 'out-of-the-park'. ...... ...... ur on your game today, blessings e-g

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E. Grogan's avatar

THANK YOU! You get what I'm trying to do and I appreciate that.

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E. Grogan's avatar

First, I never said anyone was perfect. Highly intelligent, yes. If you don't believe in 5D chess or white hats, then you haven't done any research, which is the only way you will ever find out what is really going on. I'm in my 70s and have watched politics since 1960 debate between Nixon and JFK. I've learned a lot in that time, sorry you don't seem to be interested in finding the truth about the deep state.

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Kmari's avatar

I was stating my opinion and have as many years as you do put behind it. I am very interested in truth hence my constant reading to form educated opinions that represent facts over feelings. You are too dismissive and part of the leverage being exerted to divide America first patriots. I encourage everyone to not be so dismissive

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E. Grogan's avatar

Thank you for demonstrating that you have entirely missed my message and intent.

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John Marochi's avatar

I, TOO.

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JasonWickBatStroke's avatar

So in your words Trumps keeping all his enemies close, on first name basis, to expose, inside his cabinet, running and trusting the fate of our country in the hands and minds of Mad men and power hungry women driving us closer to collapse and global WWIII? Rhetorical. That’s right I forgot to take my Trust the plan pills today. I also need some of that 4D vitamin chess . And a little hit of he can do no wrong copium. Please. I’ve done the digging and research. You’ve watched Trump for a long time? Then you should know he is a creature of pigheaded habits. A strength and weakness, respectability. Because of this he didn’t do his research on appropriately appointed and vetting True Patriots. Instead? Beta male backstabbers(Kash, Bongino etc.) and cuckoo DEI covert “conservative” feminist (Wiles, Noem, Mace, Bondi, MGT etc). Americans need to wake up!

The Zionist Occupied Government of Trump 47

https://open.substack.com/pub/gregreese/p/the-zionist-occupied-government-of?r=184bqb&utm_medium=ios

Brighteon Broadcast News, Nov 14, 2025 - Susie Wiles must go! Why MAHA and MAGA are being destroyed from within

https://www.brighteon.com/6e63fa55-c97e-48cf-8e14-01a85919966d

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Don's avatar

You don't keep your enemies close anymore, you keep them OUT OF POWER.

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JasonWickBatStroke's avatar

Exactly. Apparently that’s not strategy for others in this comment thread.

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E. Grogan's avatar

Which is exactly what Trump is doing. He's exposing them to We the People, then they quietly get shipped off to Gitmo. This info comes from military sources, who have told us that Gitmo was full 2 yrs ago, so they had to started filling up other military prisons and then had to start using ships at sea to hold the deep state prisoners. This info comes from Monkey Werx on YT about 2 yrs ago. He got that directly from military white hats. There are others with similiar info, Martin Brodel is one and he gets his info directly from white hats in military as well. Those are just 2 examples so when you start doing enough research and begin to see the pieces fit together that's what it adds up to - truth.

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Don's avatar
6hEdited

LOL How many years have we been hearing that rubbish? "Military tribunals" coming! "White hats" in the 3-letter agencies!

Can you name one, just one well known traitor who has disappeared into Gitmo. Or just disappeared?

Face it this justice-averse president will not allow the arrest of anybody. He even as much as admitted it in the recent WH big tech meeting answering a reporter's question.

"Because you'd be in jail"? Yeah, right 😄

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John Marochi's avatar

JUST LET TRUMP SPREAD HIS WAMPUM AND DO HIS JOB. HE DOESN'T NEED ALL OF YOU DOING FLEA BITES ON HIM. YOU WILL SEE.....

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E. Grogan's avatar

I'm posting what I've found through many years of hard work. I'm not basing this on just a couple of articles written by someone else, btw Brighteon is deep state IMO, has gotten lots of things wrong, I've seen it.

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JasonWickBatStroke's avatar

Where’s all this hard work?? Show us what you’ve found. “Trust Me Bro” isn’t a source or fact check. I’ve given you some of mine. Your turn. If you think Mike Adams over at The Natural News network and Brighteon is DeepState then you’re lost. Next you’ll be telling me Erika Kirk should run for president next. Just like Trump, sure Adams has gotten some stuff probably inaccurate. The difference between Adams and Trump is Mike Adams doesn’t double down on being wrong. He corrects himself, refits, takes account and gets back into the scourge. Trump doubles down keeps making the same mistakes and expect you and I to standby and stay silent. Negative. If Paul Revere were here he’d be shouting, “The end of America is coming”!

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E. Grogan's avatar

I've done my own research and presented some of it to you already. Now it's up to you to research and form your own opinion about what I've shown you. Have a nice day.

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JasonWickBatStroke's avatar

You have shown absolutely nothing whatsoever. Talking about something is not showing. As I aforementioned “trust me bro” is not a credible source. You need to show empirical evidence, have concrete details and provide something substantial. This is the problem with and you are the epitome example of the decay inside the MAGA, America First, Conservative, Republican, Right Wing etc. whatever slap on label you guy’s go but now constituents. Only a cult member deals in such absolutes as if everything is going just fine, and nothing to this point with the Trump administration stinks and something nefarious is currently at bay.

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Sphen's avatar

Agreed. He provides them with enough rope. He's not worried about how he looks to his overall opposition as its always a given.

Shame that so called supporters just can't stop wetting thier pants as they rush to hop over the fence.

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E. Grogan's avatar

Agreed!

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Smacko9's avatar

Chuck Flounder

Huh. Who could have predicted that the "drain the swamp" guy was just putting a newfangled spin on the "hope and change" guy's marketing strategy? Inconceivable!

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Smacko9's avatar

Trump doing Obama

Trump has Lost the Plot,

after I voted for him 3 times to avoid a dictatorship of wokeness

I hate that I have to say this, but he is doing an Obama:

speeches about how much he is helping Americans,

then stabbing us in the back with his actual policies

Meryl Nass - Nov15'2025

https://merylnass.substack.com/p/trump-has-lost-the-plot-after-i-vote

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Be Concerned's avatar

I have to agree. I too voted for him 3 times, but am very disappointed in what he's doing. Doesn't seem to be really focusing on America, is always focused on other countries. Choosing Wiles as COS was suspicious to me, due to her WEF & big pharma ties. I don't think he had a choice, I think the deep state is in control, & Wiles was installed. Trump probably was, too, but even if not, he has to answer to them. He might be allowed a few small wins, but nothing substantial.

I get Dr Nass's substacks, she's very in-the-know. Was a consultant for the govt in BioTerrorism in the past. A good person who keeps us all up on the truth.

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Smacko9's avatar

Mosiah Allen:

Excellent article. This summed up all the

tumultuous thoughts that have been banging around

in my head the past couple weeks. I voted for

Trump. I can no longer support this administration

in its current form. If the ship is righted,

I’ll support, but for now, it’s over for me.

Breaks my heart.

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Smacko9's avatar
1dEdited

TrumpClinton / DemoRub DemoUSA

https://youtu.be/qPK7uStv6zA

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Escape The DemoRub!

;-)

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Smacko9's avatar

Deny, Deny, Deny

https://youtu.be/0cE3K0PRlx0

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E. Grogan's avatar

I'm not denying anything, I'm passing on what I've learned through many years of research.

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Christopher Graf's avatar

Yep, they are setting her up!

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Elaine Russky's avatar

100 percent accurate. I think Trump knows it.

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Allie's avatar

Perhaps you’re right, Jason. But, perhaps there’s 2 sides to Wiles, one side that is helping to get things done (look at all of this administration’s accomplishments) and the negative side like keeping the deadly COVID shots on the market and working with AG Bondi to avoid effective prosecution of Comey, Wray, Letitia James and other Trump haters. Who could Trump trade Wiles for? Who would want to sit through a Senate confirmation for US AG to replace Bondi?

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Maureen Hanf's avatar

That's just it. What's the better alternative to Trump, that actually has a real chance of getting into office? So far, haven't seen any.

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John Marochi's avatar

I AM NOT HAPPY TO DO SO, BUT I BELIEVE YOU ARE PROBABLY RIGHT.

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JasonWickBatStroke's avatar

Hey, we trusted the “plan”, and the “plan” isn’t working to its full extent. Yes we didn’t vote for perfection, however we didn’t vote for or expect betrayal or unfilled promises. There’s a saying:

“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”.

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Martha Dodd-Slippy's avatar

You don't know Susie.

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JasonWickBatStroke's avatar

And you do? Trust the plan? 4D Chess right? Trump can do no wrong?Clearly you don’t. She comes from a benjamin netanyahu tutelage. If you’re alarmed by the swamp creatures getting appointed by Trump, take a closer look at a key decision maker of his administration, his Chief of Staff, Susie Wiles:

https://x.com/GenXGirl1994/status/1991231878699855936

https://t.me/Magic8BallRedux/173050

We The People elected him. We The People have the right and necessity to criticize him when he fails to uphold his Oath of Office and Eliminate the Swamp and put America not Isreal first. It’s people like you that need to see the knife in Trumps back to realize OMG he’s a traitor (Mike Pence) for you to actually see and realize how naive you are to this Multifaceted game of politics, government and NWO.

“It’s one big club and you ain’t in it”.

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John Marochi's avatar

WE HAVE ONE FREE COUNTRY ON OUR SIDE IN THE ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST -- ISRAEL. PUTTING AMERICA FIRST IS SUPPORTING ISRAEL. ONE DAY THEY WILL TURN THE ARAB'S BACKYARD INTO GLASS FOR US.

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Nate Ness's avatar

There is always a deep state. When you get them all, it will be your best friend. You can't win in that game.

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JasonWickBatStroke's avatar

1.) You never believe the NYT yet , you still still posted a NYT article. That’s called a fallacy. And just implicated yourself in a fallacious statement. Making your claims and research moot.

2.)You are emotional. You just had an All caps emotional outburst. How can I believe anything you have to say after your first arguments in 1.) is a moot fallacy.

3.) I do. You’re a 70+yo woman who thinks Susie Wiles is a reputable stand up cabinet member alongside believing the Trump administration in full is respectable and trustworthy, who also post NYT articles as Fact, who also types in caps and calls it nonemotional including but not limited to is blinded by her own fallacies and ignorant to the fact of the atrocities committed by Wiles and the administration against We The People.

4.) I know you don’t care about what I’ve said that part is clear to me. What’s also clear to me is you don’t do your own research. You have no political survival skills. You wait for Pence to strike with the knife. Nor do you take the time to digest the information people are trying to reveal to you until it’s too late. You live in your own world, your own box and stubbornly refuse to see the light as if you’re stuck in Plato’s cave. I gave multiple examples. Just because you chose to not read or watch any does not mean that they do not exist.

5.) Making yourself out to be a “dart board” or in other words a victim is laughable and typical argumentative deflection tactic. Usually used by people who have lost debate, and have no more of a substantial argumentative vantage point to produce. You are not a victim you chose willingly to come here on my comment thread and make a complete fool and mockery out yourself and your logical reasoning. Effectively showing your incoherent ability to look at empirical evidence and data. Bullheadedly. Making the clear cut argument that you are in fact a pseudo intellectual and repealing the 19th is defensible.

Your era taught succeeding eras to judge a tree by its fruits. When a tree produces bitter fruits you chop it down. Like Commander In Chief General George Washington. Your argument is tasteless and you now have zero credibility. However, please, continue digging your hole. I just reload and have plenty of more “darts” to throw at your figurative and fallacious “board”.

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rooby's avatar

trump is also deep state.

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Mindi's avatar

A mistake? An ever so brilliant woman makes a rookie mistake? Something stinks. And connections to the Bushes -- even more stinky.

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Te Reagan's avatar

Dream on. She’s a snake!

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John Marochi's avatar

RIGHT. I WOULD NOT TRUST "W" AS FAR AS I COULD THROW EIGHT OF HIM.

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Lynn's avatar

Why did she do the interviews in the first place? Why Vanity Fair?

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mcclainra's avatar

When in doubt, follow the money..........

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Lynn's avatar

:-)

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Charity's avatar

Not seeing anything off about it. An interview was twisted which will make people want to take her down and they are quick to say ….. we are all good here…..everyone is on the same page.

What makes it off …. people saying it’s off and trying to turn in into something it isn’t.

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Quadriped's avatar

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

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Sharon Oliensis's avatar

What makes it off is her connection ruin to Pfizer

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Sharon Oliensis's avatar

Sorry typo… her connection to Pfizer is what makes it off

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djean111's avatar

IMO, they have no choice but to defend her vigorously and then deal with her after this dies down. To not defend Wiles is tantamount to admitting she is telling the truth. Well, her version of truth, or whatever. But not defending her would put her on the defensive and she would likely go on and feed the TDS beast out of spite or a sort of necessity. IMO, of course. But that is how a corporation would handle this I think. Two choices - defend her, or attack her, and perhaps attacking her is not a great tactic, depending on how she really feels and what she knows.

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Thomas Kinsella's avatar

Women should be at home tending kids and grandkids....- Pam Bondi, her, the loon on the Supreme Court who doesn't know a man from a woman etc. - women have been a disaster in the USA, and the EU, as to politics and their votes got us the modern Democrats and massive illegal/3rd World immigration in the USA and worldwide and every other Leftist and destructive thing - Tranz Loons Communists on the Left and "Suzy" "Bondi" types on the Right -- the fatigue is real

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E. Grogan's avatar

It wasn't just the women - it was also a helluva lot of men who got us here, too. Remember the Bushes/Clinton and Obama. I say this as an old lady.

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djean111's avatar

So, Bushes and Billy and Starmer and Merz and Walz and Mamdani are blameless? Blaming one gender for anything is incredibly short-sighted and speaks more of an agenda than anything else. I will posit that a certain type of woman tends to rise in politics - like Hillary and like Carly Fiorina. But they are not worse than the men who also do very bad things.

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John Marochi's avatar

GOOD POINT.

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John Marochi's avatar

I HAVE BEEN PREACHING THIS FOR DECADES...IN BUSINESS OR POLITICS, MOST WOMEN WILL MAKE THE WRONG CALL EVERY TIME.

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JasonWickBatStroke's avatar

Bingo!

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Anthony Tasker's avatar

It does not look that bad to me ... People say stuff that's a bit wild all the time, although I have not been watching much what she has been doing ... As far as JD Vance goes , I can understand why a conspiracy theory guy would suspect Trump in the beginning and then come around to admiring him ,, i hang around in those circles ... I live in Canada unfortunately and boy would I ever like to have people like Trump and Vance in power here ... Pretty much our only hope here is that we break up into pieces or we are taken over by another country ... Even China is starting to look better than what we have here ,,, I've been there so I can say that ...

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Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

She made a mistake. They baited her and used her to discredit the goals of RFK and President Trump in fixing the sick car system. The Whitehouse knows the issues. The chart on my substack article is worth a 1000 words. https://thomasabraunrph.substack.com/p/big-pharma-keeps-grinding-it-out

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Thomas Kinsella's avatar

"mistake"? LOL - she is a "mistake". She's a Bush operative/Big Pharma paid lobbyist etc. - Trump has yet again placed another Chris Wray type inside and she's "running" things - she gave us Pam Bondi ofc and probably has RFKjr shackled - Trump will lose the mid-terms and be impeached and totally ineffective thereafter and she will be smiling....

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E. Grogan's avatar

Um, no. See my big post at top of page. I've watched Trump for over 45 yrs, he knows exactly what he's doing and he's brilliant. He's setting a trap for one. If he praises someone, it's time to look up their crimes. At the same time, the deep stater being praises is going to relax, thinking they have fooled Trump and they will let down their guard. Trump has known for decades (probably 40 yrs) how to play the game of winning at taking down deep state. It's often difficult if not impossible to figure out his moves. But if he's praising someone, it's a sign that he knows they are deep state, he's exposing them and he's allowing them to think they have won, when in reality they are about to arrested and carted off to Gitmo or some similar move.

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Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

It's hard for me to admit you are probably right, because I know we need to fix the medical and food system now to survive. God help us if you are right.

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John Marochi's avatar

THE MEDICS ARE COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTROL. FOR FIVE YEARS, THEY HAVE LET EVERYTHING FALL APART BECAUSE OF A MODERATE FLU BUG. THEY ARE STILL INSISTING THAT IT IS STILL A MATTER OF MAJOR CONCERN, WHEN THEY THEMSELVES KNOW BETTER. YOU SEE HOW THE REST OF THE WORLD IS STARTING WITH THE MASKS AND OTHER HORSECRAP. IF THEY START HERE, IT WILL BE A DEMOCRAT THING.

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John Marochi's avatar

BULL......

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Julia Baxter's avatar

I hope you are wrong. I ask again, why NOW? I too don’t believe Wiles was hoodwinked. Either she wants out or got mad and tired of all the work with no recognition.

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Justin's avatar

I can see this happening... conversing for a year, you let your guard down. You get casual with your comments, and someone on the other end of the line is listening... recording... waiting for a good time to spring the trap. And this is part of another coordinated effort to take Trump down or split the base.

How else would you combat it but by grouping together in unison? You can't deny the conversations took place.

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TomL's avatar

She's the ultimate enabler, a pharma enabler before him. Trump doesn't deserve propping up, he's the most pernicious, sociopathic, deceitful and abusive President in history, a shallow-minded sack of $hit seeking revenge on anyone who calls out his daily disgusting bull$hit. Maybe the fellow enablers are scared that their fascist, "my way or the highway" cult is unravelling with many conscientious Maga people such as MTG and Thomas Massie who've seen through all the lies and the phonies from top to bottom and will no longer be part of this dictatorial psy-op to hijack our Constitutional system.

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Julia Baxter's avatar

You may not like what we have now but have you forgotten how the last 4 years plus the Obama years nearly destroyed our country? We now have respect in the world and given more than 11 months in office, you will see an improved economy. We have to stop the constant negativity and let Trump have a chance to right the sinking ship he took on.

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John Marochi's avatar

IF THINGS ARE NOT A LOT BETTER THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, THEN, AND ONLY THEN, WILL I ABANDON SHIP. I BELIEVE THEY WILL BE.

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TomL's avatar

A lot of people are critical of Vance, but he would be a lot better, we need to transition out of DJT. Vance actually wrote a very impressive book, not ghost written like DJT. And yes we should be very concerned about Vance's connections to the dangerous cyber ghoul homosexual Peter Theil, he actually has some good connections as well.

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E. Grogan's avatar

You may want to read my post above.

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LeftTheLeft, 45-47IsWayWorse's avatar

Spot on, sometimes the truth hurts. Your comment absolutely deserves to be pinned, pretty please!

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John Marochi's avatar

YOU ARE CHOCK FULL OF ****!

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Sphen's avatar

Don't hold any punches Tom!

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Gen Chang's avatar

I'm not particularly a fan, but, if the big hitters in the Trump administration have come to her defense, what's wrong here, is that people would take the word of some Leftards rag, over all these others. It's stuff like this, that is really disgusting, but helpful, and even damaging to the conservative causes. Are you competing with Owens to see who can be the biggest POS? I'm satisfied Trump's got things under control.

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Dave's avatar

They hate Trump because he doesn’t need them. So without someone in power to manipulate and bribe, the lefties need to have a pity party. What a miserable, pathetic lot.

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Rikki's avatar

Something is definitely off.

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Joel Underwood, MD's avatar

Trump is wasting the chance to save the republic

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E. Grogan's avatar

No, he isn't. He's dumb like a fox. He didn't get to this place by being stupid. Dems keep losing, he never was supposed to be president but he's been elected - honestly- twice. There's far more to this picture than is being exposed because it's been set up to fool the enemy. This is a grand chessboard and most of us have no idea who's moving what or why. I've watched Trump for 45 yrs - he has a master's degree from MIT in Quantum Physics, he's not an idiot and he's followed deep state for 40 yrs at least and learned all he can about the deep state. This is war, you NEVER give up your hand in war. We will learn later why Trump does what he does.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

When people don't have all the facts, they guess. When they guess, they never give President Trump a break, because they think they are much more capable of being President than he is. I find that amusing. He can't tell us everything because he'd be roadmapping it for the global ghouls who are determined to destroy every one of us. I believe there are spiritual factors that everyone ignores, too. I'm grateful for what the President has done this year. Everyone wants it wrapped up in an hour like a tv show, but it took this country 250 years to get where it is today. It can't be corrected in a decade. If he lays enough track, and we can stay on it, he will have accomplished a lot. Let the man work. He has good instincts.

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John Marochi's avatar

I HAVE THOUGHT SO FOR A LONG TIME. I AGREE WITH YOU.

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Joel Underwood, MD's avatar

Zero arrests. Zero indictments. He’s currently losing the house AND senate in 2026. Unless radical change happens tomorrow night, we’re losing!

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E. Grogan's avatar

Not true at all. This is war and you NEVER tip your hand to the enemy in war, that's just stupid. He's been making arrests for 4 yrs, Gitmo was overcrowded at least 2 yrs ago. This comes from military white hat sources. You have to search for this info, it's out there. There are actors who are posing as those who have been arrested. This is a brilliant operation to take down the deep state and military white hats have spent over 60 yrs planning this.

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Joel Underwood, MD's avatar

7D chess and two moar weeks!! Got it

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John Marochi's avatar

KEEP YOUR KNICKERS ON, DOC...WE ARE LOSING NOTHING.

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Mark Burcaw's avatar

Is there still any who still believes this leftist shill after all the previous lies about Trump and his administration? If so you must be living in an echo chamber.

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Dave's avatar

I’ll say it. Leftist shit! 😆💩

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Ellen's avatar

I am not going to second-guess President Trump. Like everything else, I believe we will learn, in due time, many things that don't appear to make sense. He is well-versed in The Art of War. I do agree that this is most interesting.

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Decisive Liberty's avatar

Excuse me - are you defending the rag Vanity Fair? if anything, there is NO vanity with that group, and there is nothing fair about their stance FOR DECADES... WOW, I thought The Vigilant Fox was above all this, are you ?

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Michael Williams's avatar

If it wasn’t recorded, I would NEVER believe a Vanity Fair story.

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