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I am writing to bring attention to a deeply troubling issue regarding the prescribing practices of Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRIs) and the accountability of pharmaceutical companies, particularly Eli Lilly, in light of the tragic loss of my daughter, London Izabella-Ryén Gadd, who was only 12 years old.

The pharmaceutical industry, driven by profit, has prioritized financial gain over patient safety, often leading to devastating consequences. My daughter was prescribed SSRIs without adequate consideration of her individual needs or the potential negative effects of these medications. Despite my concerns and requests for proper treatment, the care she received was inadequate, resulting in her untimely death.

Just 18 hours after reaching out to her counselor for help, London’s cries for assistance went unanswered. In her text to the counselor, she expressed her distress and need for immediate support, but unfortunately, the counselor never reached out to anyone or conducted a wellness check.

When we were getting into the vehicle to head to the hospital, London vomited most of the medication she had taken. Despite this, the hospital staff failed to save her after she ingested the medication and subsequently vomited around 80% of it. In a moment of panic, London screamed, "I'm sorry, I didn't mean it," highlighting her regret and desperation. The autopsy revealed that only 2-3 pills were detected in her system when her blood was taken at 10:30 PM. Medical reports indicated that it had been 2 hours since London ingested the medication, which contradicts the timing of her vomiting, as the pills were still whole and had not broken down in her system. The blood results further support this discrepancy; if she had taken the pills two hours earlier, there would have been a higher concentration in her bloodstream.

After the ambulance arrived at the hospital at 11:05 PM, we signed the transfer papers at 11:18 PM. There was a delay in putting London in the ambulance, and she subsequently seized at 12:35 AM. Instead of addressing this critical situation, I pleaded with the doctor to pump her stomach and administer activated charcoal. The doctor dismissed my concerns, stating that stomach pumping was outdated and that they likely didn’t have charcoal available in the hospital. I inquired about the potential heart-related side effects of the medication she had taken, specifically looking into tachycardia and other adverse reactions. The doctor assured us that it wouldn’t be an issue, but moments later, London went into cardiac arrest.

Before we spoke to the doctor, she had already been administered three doses of fentanyl, which ultimately contributed to the cardiac arrest. We have text messages and screenshots timestamping our discussions with the doctor regarding this information. Additionally, we learned from various doctors and social workers at the hospital that the entire ER staff was terminated following this incident involving London.

In Michigan, laws too often protect doctors rather than the patients they serve. We pay their salaries, yet they do not listen to our concerns or respect our wishes regarding our children’s care. My daughter was terrified and confused, believing that medical intervention would save her. She didn’t want to die; she was just a child who trusted the system. And DID NOT KNOW THIS WOULD BE THE OUTCOME SHE THOUGHT THEY'D SAVE HER AND SHE'D BE FINE! Which I also blame the SSRIs for altering her thoughts.

The narrative surrounding selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) is riddled with misinformation. We trusted physicians and psychiatrists who recommended these drugs, often without fully disclosing their risks. SSRIs are classified as black box drugs, yet they remain on the market, despite the lack of thorough research validating their safety. The discussion around SSRIs has intensified, particularly in the wake of several tragic mass school shootings. As more research emerges, concerns are growing about the potential link between SSRIs and violent behavior. Advocates argue that these medications, often prescribed for depression and anxiety, may have unforeseen side effects that could exacerbate feelings of agitation or hostility in certain individuals. This has led to calls for a more comprehensive examination of psychiatric medications' roles in such violent incidents, stressing the need for careful monitoring and assessment when prescribing these drugs, especially to young and vulnerable populations. The conversation highlights the importance of balancing mental health treatment with an awareness of the possible implications for behavior in high-stress situations. It’s alarming to think that these medications, which can alter mental states, are treated with such leniency compared to other controlled substances.

In October 2023, the psychiatrist at the Pine Rest facility prescribed my daughter, London, a starting dose of 5 mg of Prozac. However, just less than eight months later, in July 2024, he increased her dosage to 20 mg, which is the starting dose typically recommended for adults. Considering London was only 12 years old and very petite, I found it alarming that she was put on such a strong, mind-altering medication without regard for her age or size. When we were told they were prescribing her on only 10 mg. I found out a month ago from the medical records it was 20 mg the adult starting dose.

Throughout this process, I was repeatedly told that she would only be prescribed 10 mg. After we had taken her off Prozac in October 2023 due to her discomfort with the way it made her feel, in July 2024 the psychiatrist insisted on trying it again, claiming we hadn’t given it enough time to take effect. He assured me multiple times that Prozac was the safest drug available. However, he never mentioned the black box warning associated with Prozac, nor did he inform me that he was actually prescribing a higher dose than we had previously discussed.

During both of London’s admissions to Pine Rest, the psychiatrist stated that she would need to be on some form of medication for a few days before they could consider her for discharge. This led me to believe that her release was contingent upon her being placed on medication. I had informed the psychiatrist that we were using vitamins to help with her mood, which seemed to be beneficial.

When it came time for her discharge, the nurse who assisted us was in training, and someone was there supervising her. They handed us the discharge paperwork without engaging in much discussion about the potential side effects of the medication or the black box warning. It felt rushed, and I left the facility feeling unsettled about the entire process.

Later, when I requested London’s medical records from Pine Rest, in October 2024. I was shocked to discover that she had communicated to the staff her thoughts about taking medication to overdose. This critical information was never shared with me or anyone else in our family. I had been led to believe that everything would be confidential unless she posed a risk of harm to herself or others, which makes this omission even more concerning. The medical negligence created a devastating environment that contributed to her tragic fate.

There are several grounds for class action litigation against pharmaceutical companies, including:

1. Misrepresentation of Drug Safety: Pharmaceutical companies have a history of misleading the public about the safety and effectiveness of SSRIs, often downplaying risks and side effects.

2. Failure to Conduct Thorough Research: The lack of rigorous testing before releasing these medications undermines public trust and safety.

3. Corruption within the Pharmaceutical Industry: Reports indicate that pharmaceutical companies have paid millions to investigators to validate their drugs as safe, creating a significant conflict of interest.

4. Negligence in Prescription Practices: Inappropriate dosages were prescribed, including an adult starting dose for my daughter, which contributed to her tragic outcome.

5. Inadequate Response from Healthcare Providers: The medical professionals involved failed to heed my warnings and requests for appropriate interventions, despite the clear signs of distress my daughter exhibited.

The alarming statistics surrounding mental health — 1 in 5 children are depressed, and medical malpractice is the third leading cause of death in our nation — underscore the urgency of this situation. My daughter walked into the hospital fine after taking medication, yet she was not treated with the care and urgency she deserved.

I urge you to consider these issues seriously and advocate for accountability within the pharmaceutical industry. The alarming rise in mental health issues among children, particularly linked to medication and the influence of social media, requires immediate action.

We must ensure that no other families endure this pain. It’s time for Eli Lilly and others to face accountability for their actions, and for us to push for transparency in healthcare.

Join us in this fight for justice and awareness. Share your stories, support the movement, and let’s hold those responsible accountable for the harm they’ve caused. The pharmaceutical companies killed my beautiful daughter London Izabella-Ryén Gadd, and there is no accountability. Where are the attorneys who want to protect us?!

Thank you for your attention to this urgent matter.

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Toddy's avatar

So so soo sorry for your loss. I hope you sue and sue.

See Dr. Peter Breggins substack or website on this matter. HE OR HIS WIFE should be able to direct you.

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Forever London's Mom ❤️'s avatar

Thank you for your kindness.

What do you think I should ask them for help with?

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Toddy's avatar

He is a world renown psychologist. However he did not use medicine for depression etc. He discovered how dangerous the drugs were many years ago, wrote books on it, testified in court on it. I think he may be able to direct you how to pursue the matter. Legally. This is terrible malpractice. And if nothing else it, it brings in some accountability and exposes those doctors.

But mostly. I pray that the God of all comfort will comfort you and lift you up out of the pain from your loss. 😞 🙏

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Forever London's Mom ❤️'s avatar

Thank you for your help and kindness! 🫂

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Alan's avatar

This is horrible and disheartening. My heart goes out to you as a parent familiar with mental health issues for my own children. I am not a lawyer and I most certainly would not defend Big Pharma, but from what you describe your daughter died from medical malpractice, from the doctor's initial prescription and his lack of care throughout and all the way to the hospital and ER staff. Eli Lilly will claim that the doctor failed to follow guidelines for dosage for a petite 12-year old. I don't know the laws of Michigan regarding parental consent for health care, but I am shocked you were kept out of such critical decisions for your daughter. I hope you are successful at suing the doctor, Pine Rest, the hospital and the ER staff into oblivion. Once you have that capital in your pocket and if you still have the energy, then pursue advocating for Congress to abolish laws protecting Big Pharma from being held accountable for their products.

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E. Grogan's avatar

I agree with you re: medical malpractice, this is absolutely horrifying. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that doctors made money from this - they do from vaccines so I wouldn't be surprised to learn they are paid for this as well.

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Paul3531's avatar

Lord Jesus Christ please help this family and help the rest of us do our duty when duty calls. 12 year old daughter’s death caused by healthcare system negligence.

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Percey Blakeney's avatar

I, too, offer my condolences for your loss. May you find peace, in time.

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E. Grogan's avatar

So very, very sorry for your loss. Losing a child has to be the most painful thing that could happen to a parent. The way that your child and you were dealt with is heartbreaking and infuriating. I'd like to add that I was a therapist for many years and was told by several psychiatrists that Prozac should NEVER be given to anyone under age 22. This used to be known but apparently it isn't being adhered to now. I hope you sue for every penny the culprits have. I have lost ALL trust in medical professions. It may be helpful to you and your family if you can find a support group for parents who have experienced this atrocity. What a monstrous thing to do to a child and to your family. Prayers for your and your family.

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BobbieJo Jenkins's avatar

I’m terribly sorry for the loss of your daughter 😢

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Susan Baker's avatar

I am sorry for your loss. Pills are not candy to be handed out.

I, too, hope this is investigated and people wake up to what SSRIs are doing to our children and population. So sad. Blacks box labels on prescriptions are serious. I am interested in the amount of benefit versus harm by SSRIs.

Your story is horrific.

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JD's avatar

So very sorry for the loss of your daughter. It is inexcusable what the medical pharmacy and medical professionals get away with.

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Sandra Raymond's avatar

My heartfelt condolences to you and all loved ones. It is heartbreaking for all of us to read this story of your beautiful daughter, London.

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Forever London's Mom ❤️'s avatar

How do we know if there hasn't been contamination in all the vaccines? Why are we only testing COVID vaccines?!?! I'd be in prison if I poisoned only one individual...

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Toddy's avatar

Exactly so! There sure is contamination!! The devils work.Poisoning the masses.

None of them are safe or needed. Ever.

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Julinthecrown's avatar

The whole digital ID stank from the outset!

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Richard Leger's avatar

Digital ID places you into a whole different legal framework that is privileges-based instead of rights-based... constitutional rights will no longer apply to you, see below:

https://chatgpt.com/share/68d20430-cc50-8009-8145-4c9232a66c34

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Julinthecrown's avatar

Wow! I'm assuming you had this discussion with ChatGPT? How persistent you were to dig deeper and how clever to ask the questions so that ChatGPT revealed very pertinent info for your research.

At this point in time, I am not planning to use Chat GPT or any other A.I. platform - I like to do the analyzing/synthesizing of what I read and not rely on any other's interpretation of it as much as is possible.

But in using it the way that you did you garnered more info than I would have ever suspected about their algorithms or mechanics. It was teaching you HOW to game the system and I think that is very helpful to human benefit. Thanks so much for sharing it.

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Richard Leger's avatar

Bloody heck! Wrong link!

Does this one work?: https://chatgpt.com/share/686c49dd-a280-8009-8f31-da3672296b9d

This one should explain how digital ID forces you into a different social contact where you will no longer be guaranteed your inalienable rights.

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Julinthecrown's avatar

I've been out of commission this past week so I'm sorry that I haven't had the time to read the article above. I'll get to it soon.

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Richard Leger's avatar

De nada Jul, happens to me as well, sometimes I have to get off for a week or two to deal with family/life/friends, not even time for Substack on evenings.

In the end I'm not sure it matters, it often seems as if so few people want to know, seems as though they are going to drag us all into the abyss with them.

But if you do run into someone who does want to know about digital ID, I think that this above ChatGPT session (the second one, the one I was supposed to send the first time) does a very good job of explaining the hazards of digital ID.

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Julinthecrown's avatar

Thanks so much, Richard. I, too, am an evening visitor to Substack - that's the only time I have completely to myself when I can read the comments and reply - tho haven't had much time to do THAT lately.

RE: your comment - "In the end I'm not sure it matters, it often seems as if so few people want to know..." - shake hands with me!! So few ppl I know WANT to hear ANYTHING about what's happening in the world. It's so vexing. I look forward to other comments you make here. You are a voice crying in the wilderness. 😉

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Dreaming Electric Sheep's avatar

Indeed. I have more detailed information here on how they were able to build their digital control grid so quickly and quietly. It should be a big warning to everyone, everywhere. Vietnam is not an isolated case. Once the infrastructure is in place, the controls can be mandated very, very quickly. Have a look. https://open.substack.com/pub/dreamingelectricsheep/p/vietnam-leapfrogging-into-the-future?r=11vfx5&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

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Proberta's avatar

And remember in Trump's BBB bill, the circumvention of the U.S. Constitution by making it illegal for states to ban Artificial Intelligence?!??

And it slid by because everyone was being distracted by the Trump and Elon breakup!

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Toddy's avatar

Please explain to me what we can do witj gold or silver?? Or bitcoin, maybe? So potentially, if one put all money into gold and silver.

Even in a world of cash, how does one pay for groceries. Utilities. Gas. Cars. Houses. Etc etc. ...with Gold??

Is my plumber or electrician or grocery store or farmers market going to accept a chunk of gold? Sorry, to sound so uneducated about this. It is because I am. 🤔

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NJ Election Advisor's avatar

Big things, gold

Little things, silver

Know your neighbors and your farmers

Learn to grow and build things

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Deborah's avatar

Short answer, you aren't. It would have to be standardized by weight and minted, and who is even able to do that without Them becoming the controllers of the treasury without established regulators? How many private on board "farmers" do eight billion people on the earth know and trust? The weird out of line fur baby animal worshipping vegans crowd has raised wimpy non-hunters and is there even that much wildlife to feed the world?

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Marilyn F's avatar

OMG! I’m only a few minutes into this & cannot believe what the UK is doing & their excuse for doing it. No one ever said satan wasn’t clever. You all know what to do. Be like Charlie 🙏🏼 🙏🏼 🙏🏼

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Marilyn F's avatar

Clearly, a lover of satan.

Good luck

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Percey Blakeney's avatar

It's VERY simple, public agents, if I can't access the things I pay for, for want of ID, I can't give you what you demand, for want of ID.

It's a bit like the fellow who the judge said was guilty, so needed to sign an agreement. The fellow told the judge, if you had authority to compel me to enter a contract you wouldn't need my signature, so NO.

THE END

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Richard Leger's avatar

Problem is that everyone is going to comply, and so thereafter all of us (the very, very few)

will have nowhere else to go, we'll essentially get locked out.

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Percey Blakeney's avatar

Or the public will grow up and realize there are 10,000 of them, or far more, for every tyrannical public servant and put an end to their power grab.

It's happened before.

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Richard Leger's avatar

I desperately hope that you will be proven correct Percy.

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Maureen Hanf's avatar

That's it. They'll just wait.

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Carol Haas's avatar

What's most concerning about the digital ID push is that people will not fight for what they do not value. Have you ever tried to define freedom? It defies words because its essence is infinite. Freedom -- the precious gift given to us by God -- yet not without blood. The essence of freedom infuses every attribute of God himself and breathes its blessing on all in its path. Those in whom the torch of true freedom burns, and who walk in its light, know that it can never be forcibly taken. If it's removed from the hand of one, it will light the torches in a million more.

But such a precious gift requires that it be safeguarded by an intelligent and well-taught people.

And right here is where we have failed. How many today have even considered what freedom is

-- who can measure its preciousness, its worth, its eternal meaning, and its cost? Though true freedom cannot be forcibly taken, deception can lull an ignorant, gullible, and pleasure-seeking people into laying it down voluntarily. And there are evil ones in the midst who know this.

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Barbara Charis's avatar

Does the FDA do any testing of products? I read that the FDA permits the corporations, companies, etc. to do the testing and report the results to them (for a gratuity under the table)..

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Tinfoiler's avatar

No they don't test, according to ChatGPT just now. Which means that any pharmaceutical product can have substances unknown!!! Yikes!

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Forever London's Mom ❤️'s avatar

If a vaccine could change the brain in a way that leads to autism, why isn't there more discussion about the various factors contributing to depression in our children? It’s possible that these factors could be a milder form of autism, which can escalate to severe outcomes, including suicide. For example, antibiotics have been linked to depression even after just one use. With 1 in 5 children facing depression, it's crucial that we address this epidemic as well.

I am writing to bring attention to a deeply troubling issue regarding the prescribing practices of Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRIs) and the accountability of pharmaceutical companies, particularly Eli Lilly, in light of the tragic loss of my daughter, London Izabella-Ryén Gadd, who was only 12 years old.

The pharmaceutical industry, driven by profit, has prioritized financial gain over patient safety, often leading to devastating consequences. My daughter was prescribed SSRIs without adequate consideration of her individual needs or the potential negative effects of these medications. Despite my concerns and requests for proper treatment, the care she received was inadequate, resulting in her untimely death.

Just 18 hours after reaching out to her counselor for help, London’s cries for assistance went unanswered. In her text to the counselor, she expressed her distress and need for immediate support, but unfortunately, the counselor never reached out to anyone or conducted a wellness check.

When we were getting into the vehicle to head to the hospital, London vomited most of the medication she had taken. Despite this, the hospital staff failed to save her after she ingested the medication and subsequently vomited around 80% of it. In a moment of panic, London screamed, "I'm sorry, I didn't mean it," highlighting her regret and desperation. The autopsy revealed that only 2-3 pills were detected in her system when her blood was taken at 10:30 PM. Medical reports indicated that it had been 2 hours since London ingested the medication, which contradicts the timing of her vomiting, as the pills were still whole and had not broken down in her system. The blood results further support this discrepancy; if she had taken the pills two hours earlier, there would have been a higher concentration in her bloodstream.

After the ambulance arrived at the hospital at 11:05 PM, we signed the transfer papers at 11:18 PM. There was a delay in putting London in the ambulance, and she subsequently seized at 12:35 AM. Instead of addressing this critical situation, I pleaded with the doctor to pump her stomach and administer activated charcoal. The doctor dismissed my concerns, stating that stomach pumping was outdated and that they likely didn’t have charcoal available in the hospital. I inquired about the potential heart-related side effects of the medication she had taken, specifically looking into tachycardia and other adverse reactions. The doctor assured us that it wouldn’t be an issue, but moments later, London went into cardiac arrest.

Before we spoke to the doctor, she had already been administered three doses of fentanyl, which ultimately contributed to the cardiac arrest. We have text messages and screenshots timestamping our discussions with the doctor regarding this information. Additionally, we learned from various doctors and social workers at the hospital that the entire ER staff was terminated following this incident involving London.

In Michigan, laws too often protect doctors rather than the patients they serve. We pay their salaries, yet they do not listen to our concerns or respect our wishes regarding our children’s care. My daughter was terrified and confused, believing that medical intervention would save her. She didn’t want to die; she was just a child who trusted the system. And DID NOT KNOW THIS WOULD BE THE OUTCOME SHE THOUGHT THEY'D SAVE HER AND SHE'D BE FINE! Which I also blame the SSRIs for altering her thoughts.

The narrative surrounding selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) is riddled with misinformation. We trusted physicians and psychiatrists who recommended these drugs, often without fully disclosing their risks. SSRIs are classified as black box drugs, yet they remain on the market, despite the lack of thorough research validating their safety. The discussion around SSRIs has intensified, particularly in the wake of several tragic mass school shootings. As more research emerges, concerns are growing about the potential link between SSRIs and violent behavior. Advocates argue that these medications, often prescribed for depression and anxiety, may have unforeseen side effects that could exacerbate feelings of agitation or hostility in certain individuals. This has led to calls for a more comprehensive examination of psychiatric medications' roles in such violent incidents, stressing the need for careful monitoring and assessment when prescribing these drugs, especially to young and vulnerable populations. The conversation highlights the importance of balancing mental health treatment with an awareness of the possible implications for behavior in high-stress situations. It’s alarming to think that these medications, which can alter mental states, are treated with such leniency compared to other controlled substances.

In October 2023, the psychiatrist at the Pine Rest facility prescribed my daughter, London, a starting dose of 5 mg of Prozac. However, just less than eight months later, in July 2024, he increased her dosage to 20 mg, which is the starting dose typically recommended for adults. Considering London was only 12 years old and very petite, I found it alarming that she was put on such a strong, mind-altering medication without regard for her age or size. When we were told they were prescribing her on only 10 mg. I found out a month ago from the medical records it was 20 mg the adult starting dose.

Throughout this process, I was repeatedly told that she would only be prescribed 10 mg. After we had taken her off Prozac in October 2023 due to her discomfort with the way it made her feel, in July 2024 the psychiatrist insisted on trying it again, claiming we hadn’t given it enough time to take effect. He assured me multiple times that Prozac was the safest drug available. However, he never mentioned the black box warning associated with Prozac, nor did he inform me that he was actually prescribing a higher dose than we had previously discussed.

During both of London’s admissions to Pine Rest, the psychiatrist stated that she would need to be on some form of medication for a few days before they could consider her for discharge. This led me to believe that her release was contingent upon her being placed on medication. I had informed the psychiatrist that we were using vitamins to help with her mood, which seemed to be beneficial.

When it came time for her discharge, the nurse who assisted us was in training, and someone was there supervising her. They handed us the discharge paperwork without engaging in much discussion about the potential side effects of the medication or the black box warning. It felt rushed, and I left the facility feeling unsettled about the entire process.

Later, when I requested London’s medical records from Pine Rest, in October 2024. I was shocked to discover that she had communicated to the staff her thoughts about taking medication to overdose. This critical information was never shared with me or anyone else in our family. I had been led to believe that everything would be confidential unless she posed a risk of harm to herself or others, which makes this omission even more concerning. The medical negligence created a devastating environment that contributed to her tragic fate.

There are several grounds for class action litigation against pharmaceutical companies, including:

1. Misrepresentation of Drug Safety: Pharmaceutical companies have a history of misleading the public about the safety and effectiveness of SSRIs, often downplaying risks and side effects.

2. Failure to Conduct Thorough Research: The lack of rigorous testing before releasing these medications undermines public trust and safety.

3. Corruption within the Pharmaceutical Industry: Reports indicate that pharmaceutical companies have paid millions to investigators to validate their drugs as safe, creating a significant conflict of interest.

4. Negligence in Prescription Practices: Inappropriate dosages were prescribed, including an adult starting dose for my daughter, which contributed to her tragic outcome.

5. Inadequate Response from Healthcare Providers: The medical professionals involved failed to heed my warnings and requests for appropriate interventions, despite the clear signs of distress my daughter exhibited.

The alarming statistics surrounding mental health — 1 in 5 children are depressed, and medical malpractice is the third leading cause of death in our nation — underscore the urgency of this situation. My daughter walked into the hospital fine after taking medication, yet she was not treated with the care and urgency she deserved.

I urge you to consider these issues seriously and advocate for accountability within the pharmaceutical industry. The alarming rise in mental health issues among children, particularly linked to medication and the influence of social media, requires immediate action.

We must ensure that no other families endure this pain. It’s time for Eli Lilly and others to face accountability for their actions, and for us to push for transparency in healthcare.

Join us in this fight for justice and awareness. Share your stories, support the movement, and let’s hold those responsible accountable for the harm they’ve caused. The pharmaceutical companies killed my beautiful daughter London Izabella-Ryén Gadd, and there is no accountability. Where are the attorneys who want to protect us?!

Thank you for your attention to this urgent matter.

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Rush Daley's avatar

I strongly agree regards psychiatry, and, we must get children off Socials

#VoluntaryAO

#SocialCommerceModel

#18plusSCM

* in the near future allowing child-minds unrestricted access and commodification on SM will be regarded as abuse (Tiktok is evil af!)

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TheGreatAwakening's avatar

Please provide a link for your assertion that Australia's digital ID is now (or even will become) "mandatory". I searched for it b/c what you write is very troubling, but I'm seeing no sources that support what you wrote.

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TheGreatAwakening's avatar

Thank you, but I find your link nonresponsive (and problematic.) I said nothing about vaccines, which is what is in your ChatGPT response, ChatGPT is not a source, lol -- it hallucinates big time, and I didn't ask for an explanation, I asked for sources as to the mandatory nature of Australia's IDs, which is exactly what Maria Zee wrote. What you sent is not a source. I'm quite confident that they are NOT mandatory.

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Richard Leger's avatar

Bloody heck! Wrong link!

Does this one work?: https://chatgpt.com/share/686c49dd-a280-8009-8f31-da3672296b9d

This one should explain how digital ID forces you into a different social contact where you will no longer be guaranteed your inalienable rights.

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TheGreatAwakening's avatar

oh, trust me -- I know all about digital ID, and it's for sure scary tuna stuff. However, that doesn't make what Maria Zee said accurate (I'm about the facts), and I'm not a fan of when she fear mongers based on falsities. So my question again went to evidence of that one very specific claim of hers, and a dissertation from chatgpt on digital IDs ;-) is not responsive to my question (and again, chatgpt hallucinates.)

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Omar Zaid's avatar

They're testing the waters

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Fiona walker's avatar

To be fair I already have a “government gateway” log in (UK) which I use to renew my passport, driving licence, check if I owe tax and check my predicted state pension; I would also have to use it to claim benefits if I needed to. It’s just linked to my National Insurance number so no big deal, it’s the same system as was used manually before the internet. Whatever new system they bring in, my faith in the total incompetence of the UK to develop or run a comprehensive digital operation is what will save us. We have been trying for decades to do this in the NHS and we still depend on big paper files been moved from ward to ward. We tried with Covid “track and trace” which was a complete failure, £37bn spaffed up the wall. Here’s to being rubbish at everything!

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Ollie's avatar

Nepal just burned down their traitorous politicians for less, let's hope Vietnam takes a lesson from them.

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Hugh Griffin's avatar

I am against censorship and government curtailing of online rights but.... here is what I have found for a breakdown of the new Australian online safety rules:

Voluntary digital ID: The Australian government's Digital ID system remains voluntary for individuals. If you choose not to use a digital ID for government services, alternative verification methods are available.

Age verification for certain content: Under a new industry code from the eSafety Commissioner, search engines like Google and Microsoft must implement age verification for users who are logged into their accounts.

Filtering for under-18s: For any logged-in user identified as under 18, search engines will be required to switch on "safe search" features to filter out harmful material such as pornography.

Access without logging in: Users can still perform basic searches without logging in or verifying their age. For these users, content considered potentially harmful will be blurred by default.

Purpose of the rules: The new regulations are intended to protect Australian children from exposure to harmful online content, including pornography, violent material, and content related to self-harm.

Enforcement: Non-compliance with the new codes could result in significant financial penalties for tech companies, with fines potentially reaching up to AU$50 million per breach.

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Dark Ronin's avatar

F*** Digital ID. Do not comply.

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