We already know that Trump hitched a ride on Epstein's plane to go from Florida to New York, and that Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar a Lago for hitting on a masseuse. If there was anything else in the Epstein files, the FBI would have used it before 2024. Surely Musk knows that as well, so why does he make the claim? Some suggest it is to force the release of the Epstein files and Trump is in on the plot.
Unless both sides are equally blackmailed and implicated and hage dirt on each other so Dems don't release anything bc of mutually assured destruction. That is also a possibility. Who knows for sure. At our level we're just seeing distraction and theater. We're not privy to what's really going on unfortunately. Just have to wait and see what happens...
I think so too. We know he’s on the flight log just not to the island supposedly. I don’t think it would have been kept secret from the press, don’t see how. But on the other hand Musk is right in that they did all this work and Trump didn’t cut like it should have been
When Trump discovered some things he didn't like about Epstein he disassociated himself, unlike Clinton who went on many flights and dismissed his bodyguards.
PRAYING for ALMIGHTY GOD to provide President Trump and Elon Musk HIS SELFLESSNESS, WISDOM, GUIDANCE, MERCY and GRACE toward each other for the continued good of our nation.
I’m encouraged that the disagreement is all open and public. We need a lesson in how to disagree but still be on the same side.
Those of us watching can see that on the one hand Trump seems right to remove the bribes for buying electric vehicles, and on the other hand Musk seems right about beautiful Bills being slim.
What are you smoking, Ralph? Ketamine? That's Elon's drug of choice. Maybe he and Trump get together, and while Elon smokes ketamine Trump guzzles cough syrup, that's his drug of choice (according to PAs on "The Apprentice").
Elon's done in the Trump administration. The Epstein files should be released Then we'll see exactly who DJT is: a sexual predator with a long history of sexual violence.
I read the court testimony of a 17yo virgin he raped. She begged him not, but he hauled and whacked her, really hard, across the face, and shouted down at her (he had her pinned on a bed), "I'm gonna do whatever I want!"
Then he raped her. A 17yo innocent.
And you voted for the assh*le. Aren't you proud of yourself?
I am not taking sides, but I totally agree that this ‘big beautiful bill’ needs to be cut way down! They need to stop spending beyond our (taxpayer) means and get the deficit severely reduced, under control, and balance the budget.
Why isn’t anyone talking about the AI portion of the bill where states cannot act on their own against directions the federal government may or may not take.
I totally agree! As far as these big humongous bills that they are supposed to read in less than 24 hours, that is totally ridiculous! Only one item per bill! Quit adding all these other hidden things in the bill! Reminds me of what Nancy Pelosi said, “You have to read the bill to find out what is in it.” Really! But as I said above, it’s impossible with the length of these bills. They do it like that purposefully, because they know these bills won’t get read. We will all just be surprised, including congress, when an issue arises that was in the bill that no one knew anything about!
I don’t believe in Donald Trump. I am skeptical of Elon. There’s no faith in either of them. Nothing has changed. Nothing has been accomplished as far as John Q Public has seen. It’s a big club and we’re not in it. Truer words were never spoken. But the vaccinations continue. The wars continue. No one has been convicted. Nothing of substance has been exposed. Life in the world just goes on. Same as it ever did.
Disappointed. Re the shots, someone posted that the previous “autopen” regime had given approval throughout the mNEXSPIKE vax and by September 2024 it was too late to back out of the agreement so the Trump administration could not back out without a huge justifiable lawsuit threat.
They are both egomaniacs. However, Trump can't stop telling everyone how wonderful he is. He makes everything that happens about him, and has to keep mentioning how awful any predecessor was and how he is so great and will fix everything. Yet, here we are in the same crumbling empire we had a year ago, with the same spending and the same dithering.
This is where it gets good for the Dems: they watch Trumpville implode from its own mediocrity. Trump has a cabinet full of billionaires. You think they represent the average American? Again, dream on.
Trump is a vicious rapist. Anyone who voted for him didn't care about his past. So now you helped install a serial rapist in the Oval Office. Is that really your taste? Or were you just ignorant of who he is?
Have you ever asked yourself why on earth he’d have to rape anyone? He had no problem finding women, he didn’t need to rape them. That woman was paid to lie so people wouldn’t vote for Trump. Most people saw through it, not you!
I like both Trump and Elon and I feel they did good work together. Instead of going back and forth like children, why aren't more people focused on arresting the people who have been stealing from Americans like pelosi, Biden family members, schiff, Sanders, the Clintons and warren? The Epstein shit is old news. Fine they used to be friends, he may have been on a plane but people need to calm down. Interesting that Elon isn't calling out Clinton. Just go your separate ways and focus on what you do best... Trump gets us out of the mess of the last 4 years and Elon makes great cars, rockets and AI. Keep it simple.
It seems quite clear from the tone of their comments that Elon is very angry and striking out but even if his anger is justified, this immature back biting in the public square is bad form. It makes no sense he would go from loving Trump to hating him over the current Bill, even if he speaks out in disagreement, which is warranted if his opinion is it's not in the nations best interest. But then neither is this public disagreement and horrible accusation regarding the Epstein list. Without hard evidence, that should not have been brought up. Those people all traveled in the same circles at times just because of wealth and status, doesn't mean they were bosom buddies and of the same ilk. Until I see evidence otherwise, I'm not going to take anybody's word for truth, not even Elon's. Clearly, this entire situation and those involved need our prayers and truth to out to the extent it needs to be known.
Had to stop reading and post a very simple: "THERE SHOULD BE NO GOVERNMENT MANDATES FOR STUPID ELECTRIC CARS", period. Let the free market determine it. Electric cars would never make it with the current technology if they had to compete on their own. Maybe Tesla, but not at the scale that he has been able to build them. Government (politicians) picking winners and losers needs to get out of the tax code. You couldn't give me $100,000 dollars to "buy" an electric car.
Implement the FairTax and then let the market determine the "winners" and "losers".
President Trump will never back down on this stuff. Once he starts talking, he fireside chats himself with the media and ends up saying too much. Love the President, but I am not 100% sure that without the effort of Elon and his get out the vote push that we would have won PA. Maybe, but Elon and Scott Pressler both did a ton to secure that election.
Stop with the internal destruction. We look like Demonrats. Acting like this, the middle will turn on us and give the final destruction of the Republic back to the moron Dems and their RINO allies. Thanks Mike Johnson and your RINO buddies, you are a big part of the problem too. The BBB should have been a balanced budget, or the framework laid out to balance the budget. Nope, you can't even do that.
We already know that Trump hitched a ride on Epstein's plane to go from Florida to New York, and that Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar a Lago for hitting on a masseuse. If there was anything else in the Epstein files, the FBI would have used it before 2024. Surely Musk knows that as well, so why does he make the claim? Some suggest it is to force the release of the Epstein files and Trump is in on the plot.
You are right that that would have definitely already come out.
Why?
because the Dems and their buddies at the FBI were ready and willing to do or say anything to make Trump suffer.
Unless both sides are equally blackmailed and implicated and hage dirt on each other so Dems don't release anything bc of mutually assured destruction. That is also a possibility. Who knows for sure. At our level we're just seeing distraction and theater. We're not privy to what's really going on unfortunately. Just have to wait and see what happens...
100%
https://hrabmv.substack.com/p/master-of-destruction
Just as Pam Bondi is prepared to make them suffer again.
Yeah exactly, this is old news. Something tells me Elon is bitter about leaving. I like both men but the infighting is just ridiculous.
It makes me sad.
Bitter is a good word to describe this.
I think so too. We know he’s on the flight log just not to the island supposedly. I don’t think it would have been kept secret from the press, don’t see how. But on the other hand Musk is right in that they did all this work and Trump didn’t cut like it should have been
Anyone really think for a moment that a Dem-controlled Senate and a RINO-swayed House would pass a bill with real cuts in it? HA.
I agree with you. We all knew that before. It's like 10 year olds slinging dirt in a fight.
When Trump discovered some things he didn't like about Epstein he disassociated himself, unlike Clinton who went on many flights and dismissed his bodyguards.
You’ve got it. Trump and Elon are both playing the game on the elites and to force open the Epstein files. They’re not stupid. It’s all theatre.
Exactly thank you Pat. You are very right. These people do not fight like kids they have armies. This is no test of their alliance.
There is no conflict between the two! It is all a performance, you missed the key detail---https://hrabmv.substack.com/p/master-of-destruction
Yeah, something is really off about this Trump/Musk “squabble”…seems to be a bit contrived, IMO. 🤨 What’s REALLY up with this annoying news?!?
I turned off the TV because I am sick of listening to the media putting this BS to the forefront of their reporting! 😖
I agree.
Why would someone who owns his own custom 757 need to hitch a ride on the Lolita Express?
😂😂😂
PRAYING for ALMIGHTY GOD to provide President Trump and Elon Musk HIS SELFLESSNESS, WISDOM, GUIDANCE, MERCY and GRACE toward each other for the continued good of our nation.
I’m encouraged that the disagreement is all open and public. We need a lesson in how to disagree but still be on the same side.
Those of us watching can see that on the one hand Trump seems right to remove the bribes for buying electric vehicles, and on the other hand Musk seems right about beautiful Bills being slim.
Praying for a public resolution.
Still be on the same side?
What are you smoking, Ralph? Ketamine? That's Elon's drug of choice. Maybe he and Trump get together, and while Elon smokes ketamine Trump guzzles cough syrup, that's his drug of choice (according to PAs on "The Apprentice").
Elon's done in the Trump administration. The Epstein files should be released Then we'll see exactly who DJT is: a sexual predator with a long history of sexual violence.
I read the court testimony of a 17yo virgin he raped. She begged him not, but he hauled and whacked her, really hard, across the face, and shouted down at her (he had her pinned on a bed), "I'm gonna do whatever I want!"
Then he raped her. A 17yo innocent.
And you voted for the assh*le. Aren't you proud of yourself?
You're so full of shit. If this happened it would be wall to wall coverage for years. Go troll somewhere else.🤡
? You’re being facetious, of course. Anyone that believes that either of these people care about we the minions are delusional.
Thank you.
It doesn't sound like Trump has a need for anything from a personal savior.
I am not taking sides, but I totally agree that this ‘big beautiful bill’ needs to be cut way down! They need to stop spending beyond our (taxpayer) means and get the deficit severely reduced, under control, and balance the budget.
Why isn’t anyone talking about the AI portion of the bill where states cannot act on their own against directions the federal government may or may not take.
https://youtu.be/5FZfkeAdsi0?si=CXUDspSyB4cDg86l
I totally agree! As far as these big humongous bills that they are supposed to read in less than 24 hours, that is totally ridiculous! Only one item per bill! Quit adding all these other hidden things in the bill! Reminds me of what Nancy Pelosi said, “You have to read the bill to find out what is in it.” Really! But as I said above, it’s impossible with the length of these bills. They do it like that purposefully, because they know these bills won’t get read. We will all just be surprised, including congress, when an issue arises that was in the bill that no one knew anything about!
Yes- this needs to be excluded for sure.
I thought this was interesting.
https://mises.org/mises-wire/make-america-free-again
I don’t believe in Donald Trump. I am skeptical of Elon. There’s no faith in either of them. Nothing has changed. Nothing has been accomplished as far as John Q Public has seen. It’s a big club and we’re not in it. Truer words were never spoken. But the vaccinations continue. The wars continue. No one has been convicted. Nothing of substance has been exposed. Life in the world just goes on. Same as it ever did.
Disappointed. Re the shots, someone posted that the previous “autopen” regime had given approval throughout the mNEXSPIKE vax and by September 2024 it was too late to back out of the agreement so the Trump administration could not back out without a huge justifiable lawsuit threat.
Idk, but has a ring of truth.
No way would the, previously litigious Pfizer/Moderna risk a lawsuit which would bring discovery.
Think of all the doctors who have called those things bioweapons/poisons, yet never get sued.
https://hrabmv.substack.com/p/master-of-destruction
Neither of them needs faith in them.
Musk is acting like a two-year-old who just had his toy taken away.
They are both egomaniacs. However, Trump can't stop telling everyone how wonderful he is. He makes everything that happens about him, and has to keep mentioning how awful any predecessor was and how he is so great and will fix everything. Yet, here we are in the same crumbling empire we had a year ago, with the same spending and the same dithering.
On the other hand, Musk has revolutionized multiple high-tech markets without any help from outside bankers.
you are also smoking something hard
It is better than hitting myself in the head with it, as you appear to be doing.
Just like Satan. Full of pride!
Thanks to the naive like you.
I agree and that is exactly what his posts sound like.
What toy would that be since he knew it was temporary?
popularity and adoration from a new and wider audience.
He doesn't need anyone else's adoration, his narcissistic megalomania overrides it.
Lolz
Don’t worry too much about the theatrics 🙃
A strategic move and public spat out and breakup
Nicely sets up Elon as a dissident and Lessing all the heat on him and on his companies
His future will again be bright soonish enough 🤷♂️
This.
Keep dreaming. Both are delusional.
This is where it gets good for the Dems: they watch Trumpville implode from its own mediocrity. Trump has a cabinet full of billionaires. You think they represent the average American? Again, dream on.
Trump is a vicious rapist. Anyone who voted for him didn't care about his past. So now you helped install a serial rapist in the Oval Office. Is that really your taste? Or were you just ignorant of who he is?
Have you ever asked yourself why on earth he’d have to rape anyone? He had no problem finding women, he didn’t need to rape them. That woman was paid to lie so people wouldn’t vote for Trump. Most people saw through it, not you!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you still don’t understand how Trump works.
I like both Trump and Elon and I feel they did good work together. Instead of going back and forth like children, why aren't more people focused on arresting the people who have been stealing from Americans like pelosi, Biden family members, schiff, Sanders, the Clintons and warren? The Epstein shit is old news. Fine they used to be friends, he may have been on a plane but people need to calm down. Interesting that Elon isn't calling out Clinton. Just go your separate ways and focus on what you do best... Trump gets us out of the mess of the last 4 years and Elon makes great cars, rockets and AI. Keep it simple.
You are so correct about that,
I am hopeful that this is an act by these two people. God, please mend these two men in JESUS name Amen.
It’s a show for a purpose. Wait and see.
Keep praying for sanity. Neither man has it.
It seems quite clear from the tone of their comments that Elon is very angry and striking out but even if his anger is justified, this immature back biting in the public square is bad form. It makes no sense he would go from loving Trump to hating him over the current Bill, even if he speaks out in disagreement, which is warranted if his opinion is it's not in the nations best interest. But then neither is this public disagreement and horrible accusation regarding the Epstein list. Without hard evidence, that should not have been brought up. Those people all traveled in the same circles at times just because of wealth and status, doesn't mean they were bosom buddies and of the same ilk. Until I see evidence otherwise, I'm not going to take anybody's word for truth, not even Elon's. Clearly, this entire situation and those involved need our prayers and truth to out to the extent it needs to be known.
It’s a distraction🙄
Yep. Some voices of sanity here. Most everyone’s buying it.
Fake. Planned. We all knew this was coming.
Baloney. You're seeing Trump's usual m.o. for working with others: screw them any time it will serve his own needs.
You're a fucking clown.🖕🏿
Musk is in the files too!
All to distract. Just acting like children fighting over a toy.
This is all theater. It’s a big fake show. They aren’t really feuding.
Had to stop reading and post a very simple: "THERE SHOULD BE NO GOVERNMENT MANDATES FOR STUPID ELECTRIC CARS", period. Let the free market determine it. Electric cars would never make it with the current technology if they had to compete on their own. Maybe Tesla, but not at the scale that he has been able to build them. Government (politicians) picking winners and losers needs to get out of the tax code. You couldn't give me $100,000 dollars to "buy" an electric car.
Implement the FairTax and then let the market determine the "winners" and "losers".
President Trump will never back down on this stuff. Once he starts talking, he fireside chats himself with the media and ends up saying too much. Love the President, but I am not 100% sure that without the effort of Elon and his get out the vote push that we would have won PA. Maybe, but Elon and Scott Pressler both did a ton to secure that election.
Stop with the internal destruction. We look like Demonrats. Acting like this, the middle will turn on us and give the final destruction of the Republic back to the moron Dems and their RINO allies. Thanks Mike Johnson and your RINO buddies, you are a big part of the problem too. The BBB should have been a balanced budget, or the framework laid out to balance the budget. Nope, you can't even do that.
Amen! Totally agree!💔🙏
🎯!
What is going on that they need this big of a distraction? Did we move nukes somewhere? Banks failing?