Not true. When jobs, medical care, lack of access to food, imprisonment are used to get compliance that goes beyond enforcement and robs billions of people of choice. Prisoners literally had no choice. Military often had no choice. Students confined to rooms until they complied had no choice. A choice between food and vaccine is not choice. It is coercion. It is force.
If the majority of people had a back bone they would've said NO! It is because we live in the Western World where people are lazy and do not educate themselves on what they put into their bodies or our political structure. High School mentally and follow the masses. Do not follow the sheep which include the government and so called health advisors, What people should do is; "FOLLOW THE MONEY"!
There was zero escape in some parts of the country. Don't make it sound like you were helping the masses. Be serious or go home. I'm pure blood but my job and home were not threatened.
My wife works in health care, do you think she was following the masses by choice? She had to work. Maybe you don't remember going into a hospital during Covid... you couldn't unless you worked there and then only with a mask and a Covid vaccine.
So don't say 'follow the masses' no one knew it was a BS alarm for profit at the beginning.
That is such BS. I traveled the world during COVID. It is not just a Western issue. Forcing people to chose between existential needs or getting a shot is not offering choice except life and death and that is by definition force and coercion.
In California, they were offering gift cards, marijuana, free gas, etc. if you were willing to take it. Thank God, I stood my ground and did not allow my husband or my son to get it. I was a teacher and out of 40 staff members on my elementary school campus. I was one of five that didn’t take it. So we were forced to do testing every week. Such crap! I really cannot even believe we went through that.
Yes everyone had a choice. No job was worth keeping over a vaccine made in such short time..prisoners also had a choice..They received commissary money to take it.. The military could have said no also.. They would have been discharged. Students could have forgone college for a few semesters. Yes everyone had a choice. Most people just chose what they thought was the easiest way out. There was plenty of info out there to research. And of course if people would have prayed and asked God for guidance he would have opened their eyes and heart to the truth. Just like he did me.
True too. Each person knows the reason they ‘took’ it. Only they know the truth. Will they accept their decision or prefer to blame? My child wanted to travel. Now regrets it. Every situation was different.
Even with the worst of threats and fears, there is always a choice. I get many decided the risk of one choice was greater than the other. But they made the choice and are ultimately responsible for that decision. There are many who chose differently and didn't take the jab. Prisoners may not have had a choice, I can't verify that one way or the other, but the military had many who made the hard choice to not take the jab. Is it coercion, yes. But they each with that one possible exception made the choice.
Some in the Military had a choice - loss of career, loss of other needs being met. Many in the military did not get a choice. The option was jail, resulting from military charges for failing to obey a lawful order and in jail, the shot would be given. Or dishonorable discharge where future work and care get denied - no way to survive.
The absolute sanctimious BS of "I made the hard choice, everyone else could too" misses the point 100%. That choice is not free. It is existential. The shot or food. The shot or a house. The shot or medical care. The shot or be cut off from loved ones. The shot or no transplant. The shot or no cancer treatment, etc. Those might be choices in a neurological sense. They are not in an ethical sense. They are not in a legal sense. And when the choice is death from lack of care or lack of other needs it is a choice between manner of death. It is weighing the statistical severity of one means of harm over another means of harm FORCED on everyone against every human right and all legal standards established since WWII.
Millions of people were locked in their apartments in Kenya, Bangladesh, China, or sequestered in Concentration Camps in Australia. Countless Kenyans died of hunger for refusing the shot. A plague of starvation of "Biblical" proportions took place in Africa and Asia not because of COVID, but because of the enforcement in response.
Millions of people had a choice of death or death. Injury or injury. That is not choice in any humane or ethical sense. To suggest otherwise minimizes the severity of the coercion and minimizes the history and consequences of homicidal policies governments forced on the people they were supposed to protect. Instead they preyed on them by denying choice.
That is literally NOT a "free choice". If a choice comes with cost, it is by definition not free. Asking or demanding a choice between work and a shot, or any other action, is the epitome of NOT FREE. Either / Or scenarios are never free.
As for mine, thanks largely to the media's incessant bullshit not just about the vax, but also lying about the reasons people were skeptical of it, I almost got a fucking divorce.
So, good for you. But don't whitewash everything that happened in 2020 and 21.
Not whitewashing. Just made an intelligent choice. Sorry for your divorce..but that may have been a good thing if you got divorced over something such as a vaccine.
You are whitewashing. I could not enter my company's office. At one point I thought I would lose my job, and would have if SCOTUS had upheld the Biden admin's OSHA mandate. I was kicked off many social media platforms for speaking out against the vax. The lies damaged almost every relationship I have, including with immediate family members (who now don't even talk about it).
I'm not going to pretend that was not a big deal, or that there was no coercion, because that is a flat-out fucking lie.
and they lowered the age of medical consent from sixteen to twelve years old and vaxxed the kids in the schools without the parents' consent. It is still at that age and is hard to find any information on . All set up for the next vax they want to shaft your kids with.
They have no mandates fuckwit and there's less regulation of business and a greater spirit of entrepreneurship in China. They are a secret police security surveillance state but not as much as the gay-pedo-trans loving US of A. You are a typical degenerate gay/trans sheep believing all the jingoism and propaganda.
I'm sure my time in education would be at least double yours. And by the way, at least China doesn't have a "constitutional right to sodomy." The US. (SCOTUS: Lawrence v Texas, 2004), and only the US, does. China also doesn't allow adults to have sex with 12 year olds.
Under Article 120b of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (10 U.S.C. § 920b), Americans can have sex with 12 year olds provided the pedo joins the US military and marriesthe 12 year old first. Child marriage is legal in multiple states.
The US also ranks below third world countries tries like Cambodia in cross-national IQ comparisons.
There are degrees of force. Losing your job applies unacceptable pressure. Not everyone has a choice to go without work. The mandates were a violation of the Nuremberg code.
You are technically correct, but there were those who had others that depended on them, and out of a sense of duty they went against their inner knowing and partook. These are the ones I feel sorry for.
This is all bullshit! This woman should be imprisoned for life. This vaccines has destroyed so many lives and deaths to newborns. Shame on them. Ruthless twits! They keep promoting their genocide shots!
As of 1 yr. ago, they still had a number of signs up in the OBGYN Dept. at the famous Cleve. Clinic promoting the jab for pregnant women. They may still be there.
Our 36 yr old son got brain and now possibly thyroid cancer after two injections. So many people we know under 60 and a 16 yr died and have horrible health side effects
Hi Kim, sorry to hear the news. Research a detox program to help chelate out the massive heavy metals that your son received not only from thr covid shots but also the 70 + shots on the childhood vaccine schedule.
Look into alternative cancer treatments as outlined on dr. William makis substack. EDTA chelation has helped the most to get rid of the heavy metals. Fyi, but look into alternative therapies.
It will be interesting to see how many fools will roll up their sleeves for the next virus SCAM instead of letting their body's natural immune system take care of an infection. Covid jabs didn't prevent you catching the virus and if you did it didn't prevent you from giving it to someone else. It FAILED the definition of a vaccine completely. So much so they CHANGED the definition rather than criticize the fake "vaccine".
All true in my brain. Covid was the biggest lesson given to us!! We still choose to see it clearly or not. Some are still choosing to boost!?!? Woman out of TDS , pregnant women took Tylenol. That like drinking a bottle of vodka Who the fuck wud even take that chance with their unborn child but the mentally ill.
This was not a mistake. It wasn't believing that the shots were good and abandoning all methods to verify that seemed unnecessary. They knew these were harmful from day one and chose to force people into taking them anyway. This was not believed at the time to be 'for the good of the population' by those mandating these things. It was known it would harm with little to no benefit.
"The longer this issue is ignored, the greater the damage will become."
Now all we have to do is convince the group of people who believed "very fine people" for seven years that the covid vax is not, in fact, just like the Polio vax, and that Ivermectin has been taken by billions of human beings for tropical diseases.
This is going to go great. In their minds, convincing them of a cancer link is the same thing as convincing them to not believe in science.
Nothing - nothing - we say to these people will matter.
I can only comment on the way things were here in the US. I'm retired, so no job worries. I do have some serious health issues, but my gut told me something was fishy about the vaccines. My wife was still working. Her job entailed travel so she got the first 2 Pfizer shots. You have to remember what we did not know at that time. We had no idea how serious or transmissible the virus was, or how fraudulent the vaccines would turn out to be. Everyone was scared, and there is a natural tendency to believe health authorities and be law abiding. I don't hold Warp Speed against Trump, because he was lied to in order to bring down his presidency. But a lot of liars got very rich, and it is way past time for some serious payback. Save your anger and accusations for them.
With governments and the corporate media incessantly screaming, "deadly virus!!!" in our faces, I'd say by Day 3 it became painfully obvious that there was a massive agenda behind the manufactured hysteria - and that the outcomes would serve "them", not "us".
Yes. But spare a healthy portion of it for the media, INCLUDING, the "conservative" and "Trump-supporting" lesser organs of it, who (outside of Bannon and Metaxas and Emerald Robinson) continue to suppress the story to this day.
And my patience w/ Trump on this is about done, as of this latest handshaking session w/ Bourla and co. Unless there are dramatic turnabouts in GOP leadership circles soon, which show up in real reporting and in open statements from national politicians, I'll be among those calling for the Base to Boycott all donation and campaign-work support. My slogan will be "Covidvax, Coverup, G.O.P; Keep your Silence--You Lose Me!"
One small point missed is that the drug was still in its trial stage when it was released to the public. Mandating the drug in order to keep your job is coercion and taking a drug still in a trial without that knowledge does not meet medical consent requirements under most nations prescribed public health, medical ethics as internationally agreed under the UN Human Rights Agreement and the Nuremberg Code code agreed and signed by many Nations after WW2. Whilst many Govt’s tried to be clever by implementing Emergency Use Legislation, by not disclosing that the drug was still in its trial stage as part of the consent process, there may be a case for those vaccine injured, against the persons in authority who Courts may consider guilty of Malfeasance in Public Office.
My daughter also works in healthcare as a physician assistant. If she wanted her job she had to get the jab. Fortunately she already had children. Two of her co-workers had miscarriages. It’s not coincidence that so many we know have had heart and clot problems.
Correction
"Health officials ignored caution, silenced dissent, and turned public health into a reckless experiment"
=
Health officials lied and forcefully administered a known carcinogen inside a toxic carrier, into a fearful population, without any informed consent.
No one was forced. Everyone had a choice. Just like my family chose not to believe the bs..
Not true. When jobs, medical care, lack of access to food, imprisonment are used to get compliance that goes beyond enforcement and robs billions of people of choice. Prisoners literally had no choice. Military often had no choice. Students confined to rooms until they complied had no choice. A choice between food and vaccine is not choice. It is coercion. It is force.
If the majority of people had a back bone they would've said NO! It is because we live in the Western World where people are lazy and do not educate themselves on what they put into their bodies or our political structure. High School mentally and follow the masses. Do not follow the sheep which include the government and so called health advisors, What people should do is; "FOLLOW THE MONEY"!
There was zero escape in some parts of the country. Don't make it sound like you were helping the masses. Be serious or go home. I'm pure blood but my job and home were not threatened.
Are you replying to me? I believe we are on the same side of the river.
Yes you. 'follow the masses' ?? Say what?
My wife works in health care, do you think she was following the masses by choice? She had to work. Maybe you don't remember going into a hospital during Covid... you couldn't unless you worked there and then only with a mask and a Covid vaccine.
So don't say 'follow the masses' no one knew it was a BS alarm for profit at the beginning.
That is such BS. I traveled the world during COVID. It is not just a Western issue. Forcing people to chose between existential needs or getting a shot is not offering choice except life and death and that is by definition force and coercion.
In California, they were offering gift cards, marijuana, free gas, etc. if you were willing to take it. Thank God, I stood my ground and did not allow my husband or my son to get it. I was a teacher and out of 40 staff members on my elementary school campus. I was one of five that didn’t take it. So we were forced to do testing every week. Such crap! I really cannot even believe we went through that.
Exactly correct!
Yes everyone had a choice. No job was worth keeping over a vaccine made in such short time..prisoners also had a choice..They received commissary money to take it.. The military could have said no also.. They would have been discharged. Students could have forgone college for a few semesters. Yes everyone had a choice. Most people just chose what they thought was the easiest way out. There was plenty of info out there to research. And of course if people would have prayed and asked God for guidance he would have opened their eyes and heart to the truth. Just like he did me.
True too. Each person knows the reason they ‘took’ it. Only they know the truth. Will they accept their decision or prefer to blame? My child wanted to travel. Now regrets it. Every situation was different.
Even with the worst of threats and fears, there is always a choice. I get many decided the risk of one choice was greater than the other. But they made the choice and are ultimately responsible for that decision. There are many who chose differently and didn't take the jab. Prisoners may not have had a choice, I can't verify that one way or the other, but the military had many who made the hard choice to not take the jab. Is it coercion, yes. But they each with that one possible exception made the choice.
Some in the Military had a choice - loss of career, loss of other needs being met. Many in the military did not get a choice. The option was jail, resulting from military charges for failing to obey a lawful order and in jail, the shot would be given. Or dishonorable discharge where future work and care get denied - no way to survive.
The absolute sanctimious BS of "I made the hard choice, everyone else could too" misses the point 100%. That choice is not free. It is existential. The shot or food. The shot or a house. The shot or medical care. The shot or be cut off from loved ones. The shot or no transplant. The shot or no cancer treatment, etc. Those might be choices in a neurological sense. They are not in an ethical sense. They are not in a legal sense. And when the choice is death from lack of care or lack of other needs it is a choice between manner of death. It is weighing the statistical severity of one means of harm over another means of harm FORCED on everyone against every human right and all legal standards established since WWII.
Millions of people were locked in their apartments in Kenya, Bangladesh, China, or sequestered in Concentration Camps in Australia. Countless Kenyans died of hunger for refusing the shot. A plague of starvation of "Biblical" proportions took place in Africa and Asia not because of COVID, but because of the enforcement in response.
Millions of people had a choice of death or death. Injury or injury. That is not choice in any humane or ethical sense. To suggest otherwise minimizes the severity of the coercion and minimizes the history and consequences of homicidal policies governments forced on the people they were supposed to protect. Instead they preyed on them by denying choice.
No, when you are told you will lose your job this is coercion not free choice.
That's a free choice. Other jobs out there. What good is your job is you end up dead or vaccine injured?
That is literally NOT a "free choice". If a choice comes with cost, it is by definition not free. Asking or demanding a choice between work and a shot, or any other action, is the epitome of NOT FREE. Either / Or scenarios are never free.
I'm happy your family chose not to believe it.
As for mine, thanks largely to the media's incessant bullshit not just about the vax, but also lying about the reasons people were skeptical of it, I almost got a fucking divorce.
So, good for you. But don't whitewash everything that happened in 2020 and 21.
Not whitewashing. Just made an intelligent choice. Sorry for your divorce..but that may have been a good thing if you got divorced over something such as a vaccine.
I said "almost".
You are whitewashing. I could not enter my company's office. At one point I thought I would lose my job, and would have if SCOTUS had upheld the Biden admin's OSHA mandate. I was kicked off many social media platforms for speaking out against the vax. The lies damaged almost every relationship I have, including with immediate family members (who now don't even talk about it).
I'm not going to pretend that was not a big deal, or that there was no coercion, because that is a flat-out fucking lie.
Not in Ireland Israel New Zealand or Australia, or you were incarcerated for refusing.
WE WILL HUNT YOU DOWN!
and they lowered the age of medical consent from sixteen to twelve years old and vaxxed the kids in the schools without the parents' consent. It is still at that age and is hard to find any information on . All set up for the next vax they want to shaft your kids with.
Yes. Elementary school children were given shots in some US states without parental consent or knowledge.
BS. In low IQ communist countries like the US it was mandated.
In higher IQ countries where there is greater respect for human rights such as the People's Republic of China and North Korea there were no mandates.
Get off the pipe moron. Go live in China or N. Korea.
They have no mandates fuckwit and there's less regulation of business and a greater spirit of entrepreneurship in China. They are a secret police security surveillance state but not as much as the gay-pedo-trans loving US of A. You are a typical degenerate gay/trans sheep believing all the jingoism and propaganda.
Gosh dummy, you should have stayed in school, grade school at least.
What a ridiculous malicious conversation.
I'm sure my time in education would be at least double yours. And by the way, at least China doesn't have a "constitutional right to sodomy." The US. (SCOTUS: Lawrence v Texas, 2004), and only the US, does. China also doesn't allow adults to have sex with 12 year olds.
Under Article 120b of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (10 U.S.C. § 920b), Americans can have sex with 12 year olds provided the pedo joins the US military and marriesthe 12 year old first. Child marriage is legal in multiple states.
The US also ranks below third world countries tries like Cambodia in cross-national IQ comparisons.
What a country! The whole world is laughing.
What have you been smoking?
There are degrees of force. Losing your job applies unacceptable pressure. Not everyone has a choice to go without work. The mandates were a violation of the Nuremberg code.
Are you a bot. What a ridiculous thing to say.
Nope. Are you?
You are technically correct, but there were those who had others that depended on them, and out of a sense of duty they went against their inner knowing and partook. These are the ones I feel sorry for.
“No one was forced” is BS.
Quite remarkable your family made that choice and you could follow on with the claim no one was forced. What do you think the vaccine was?
You're fking stupid and live in fantasy land.
This is all bullshit! This woman should be imprisoned for life. This vaccines has destroyed so many lives and deaths to newborns. Shame on them. Ruthless twits! They keep promoting their genocide shots!
As of 1 yr. ago, they still had a number of signs up in the OBGYN Dept. at the famous Cleve. Clinic promoting the jab for pregnant women. They may still be there.
Biowarfare on human beings by elitists called Gates Fauci Biden Johnson Macron the whole caboodle of treachery satanismo and globalist cult propaganda
And where is that stupid lying murderer Rochelle Welensky now? She needs to be brought up on charges.
Our 36 yr old son got brain and now possibly thyroid cancer after two injections. So many people we know under 60 and a 16 yr died and have horrible health side effects
Hi Kim, sorry to hear the news. Research a detox program to help chelate out the massive heavy metals that your son received not only from thr covid shots but also the 70 + shots on the childhood vaccine schedule.
Look into alternative cancer treatments as outlined on dr. William makis substack. EDTA chelation has helped the most to get rid of the heavy metals. Fyi, but look into alternative therapies.
Watch Dr. Ana Maria Mihalcea's presentation:
Self Assembling Nanotechnology In Live Blood - My Presentation from the 21st AZK International Symposium Now Available
https://open.substack.com/pub/anamihalceamdphd/p/self-assembling-nanotechnology-in-f6e
About those heavy metals
It will be interesting to see how many fools will roll up their sleeves for the next virus SCAM instead of letting their body's natural immune system take care of an infection. Covid jabs didn't prevent you catching the virus and if you did it didn't prevent you from giving it to someone else. It FAILED the definition of a vaccine completely. So much so they CHANGED the definition rather than criticize the fake "vaccine".
All true in my brain. Covid was the biggest lesson given to us!! We still choose to see it clearly or not. Some are still choosing to boost!?!? Woman out of TDS , pregnant women took Tylenol. That like drinking a bottle of vodka Who the fuck wud even take that chance with their unborn child but the mentally ill.
Evil must be eradicated this time. Full stop Two failed pregnancies in the family.
Firing squad for all of them.
Judgement will be harsh
I’ve been meaning to look into the vaccine and cancer rates so thanks for this.
The vaccine shows were Democide and they were pushed by Menticide. It’s time the public became familiar with those terms: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/democide-and-menticide
This was not a mistake. It wasn't believing that the shots were good and abandoning all methods to verify that seemed unnecessary. They knew these were harmful from day one and chose to force people into taking them anyway. This was not believed at the time to be 'for the good of the population' by those mandating these things. It was known it would harm with little to no benefit.
How are ANY of these sleazeballs different than Josef Mengele??!!
"The longer this issue is ignored, the greater the damage will become."
Now all we have to do is convince the group of people who believed "very fine people" for seven years that the covid vax is not, in fact, just like the Polio vax, and that Ivermectin has been taken by billions of human beings for tropical diseases.
This is going to go great. In their minds, convincing them of a cancer link is the same thing as convincing them to not believe in science.
Nothing - nothing - we say to these people will matter.
I can only comment on the way things were here in the US. I'm retired, so no job worries. I do have some serious health issues, but my gut told me something was fishy about the vaccines. My wife was still working. Her job entailed travel so she got the first 2 Pfizer shots. You have to remember what we did not know at that time. We had no idea how serious or transmissible the virus was, or how fraudulent the vaccines would turn out to be. Everyone was scared, and there is a natural tendency to believe health authorities and be law abiding. I don't hold Warp Speed against Trump, because he was lied to in order to bring down his presidency. But a lot of liars got very rich, and it is way past time for some serious payback. Save your anger and accusations for them.
With governments and the corporate media incessantly screaming, "deadly virus!!!" in our faces, I'd say by Day 3 it became painfully obvious that there was a massive agenda behind the manufactured hysteria - and that the outcomes would serve "them", not "us".
Yes. But spare a healthy portion of it for the media, INCLUDING, the "conservative" and "Trump-supporting" lesser organs of it, who (outside of Bannon and Metaxas and Emerald Robinson) continue to suppress the story to this day.
And my patience w/ Trump on this is about done, as of this latest handshaking session w/ Bourla and co. Unless there are dramatic turnabouts in GOP leadership circles soon, which show up in real reporting and in open statements from national politicians, I'll be among those calling for the Base to Boycott all donation and campaign-work support. My slogan will be "Covidvax, Coverup, G.O.P; Keep your Silence--You Lose Me!"
One small point missed is that the drug was still in its trial stage when it was released to the public. Mandating the drug in order to keep your job is coercion and taking a drug still in a trial without that knowledge does not meet medical consent requirements under most nations prescribed public health, medical ethics as internationally agreed under the UN Human Rights Agreement and the Nuremberg Code code agreed and signed by many Nations after WW2. Whilst many Govt’s tried to be clever by implementing Emergency Use Legislation, by not disclosing that the drug was still in its trial stage as part of the consent process, there may be a case for those vaccine injured, against the persons in authority who Courts may consider guilty of Malfeasance in Public Office.
My daughter also works in healthcare as a physician assistant. If she wanted her job she had to get the jab. Fortunately she already had children. Two of her co-workers had miscarriages. It’s not coincidence that so many we know have had heart and clot problems.
We were blackmailed in spain couldn't do anything without a certificate for 1 vaccines. Never had another and wont