Vigilant Fox, here is something for you to please consider:
"If you collect 100 black ants and 100 fire ants and put them in a glass jar nothing will happen.
But if you take the jar, shake it violently and leave it on the table, the ants will start killing each other.
Reds believe that black is the enemy, while black believes that red is the enemy, when the real enemy is the person who shook the jar. The same is true in society.
Men vs Women Black vs White Faith vs Science Youngs vs Old etc...
Before we fight each other, we must ask ourselves: Who rocked the jar?"
Please read this article, it lays bare the havoc they are causing:
There is something way bigger going on when you can divide everyone in the entire world into an 'us vs them' mentality on almost every single subject.. We cannot let them get away with these ridiculous ancient divide and conquer tactics...
It is us vs the 1%. That’s always how its been. Every single red and blue voter on the planet has way more in common with each other, and shares way more of the same values with one another, than both of them combined vs the 1% who consider us cattle. They are our predators. We work to enrich them. They feast on our efforts and divide us, while working to replace us with AI, and raining down scorn.
He Is a manslaughter-er or murderer. One or the other.
Am a conservative but will not BLINDLY follow the narrative of the Right on this.
She is turning away, he is out of the way, leans over the hood to blow her face off.
THREE friggin' shots!
Calls her a bitch. Guy has an attitude problem.
Not his first encounter. Flagrant to protocol. Tragedy waiting to happen. It did.
He should have a desk job.
To think she wanted to run him over and murder him - which is the prevailing narrative - is ridiculous.
The question now, is whether this ICE goonhead gets charged for manslaughter or murder.
>The legality of them trying to stop her in the first place, and. just what is ICE's is legal authority?
"By: Adam Miller
"It is clear that US citizens' ignorance of federal laws and law enforcement duties, procedures, and limits of authority is getting to the point where it is deadly. I spent probably 3 hours watching and re-watching, and finding every single video and angle I could of the situation in Minnesota yesterday and came to one immovable conclusion based off of what I saw and what I know from a professional standpoint. This is long, but please give it a read.
"As a former officer, let me make something clear: ICE agents ARE NOT police officers, deputy sheriffs, or troopers. They are not local/state law enforcement. They are not federal criminal law enforcement. They have an INCREDIBLY limited scope of authority, and that scope of authority exists in detaining and arresting with probable cause and/or SIGNED WARRANTS those investigated and suspected of being in the US illegally.
"They cannot just pull anyone over for a traffic violation or because their car is in a place they don't want it. They have NO authority to pull people over for ANYTHING other than immigration enforcement- and even then that involves probable cause, such as a known vehicle of someone they have been tracking, or a warrant.
On very rare occasions they have the legal authority to pull someone over if they are threatening the lives of others, but that was not happening in this case. They do not have the training nor the authority to pull ANYONE else over. They cannot arrest legal citizens. They cannot detain legal citizens without probable cause to believe they might not be legal. They have ZERO authority to be attempting to force entry into a vehicle- without even identifying themselves, without a warrant, without exigent circumstances such as a life being directly threatened- that is trying to drive down the street without probable cause in relation to IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.
"This ENTIRE situation in Minnesota was outside of the scope of legal authority from the get go. None of it was done within the scope of authority of ICE. Every single behavior those agents made was procedurally incorrect, done without proper authority, and was based off of intimidation and the assumption that people do not understand the law and their rights in regards to interactions with ICE.
"On no planet should an officer, agent, or any human being ever step in front of a car in 'drive' that is actively trying to leave and use their body as a shield to prevent a person from LEGALLY LEAVING a situation in which they are not legally being detained. It takes maybe a week of any kind of actual law enforcement training to understand that under NO CIRCUMSTANCES do you ever place yourself in front of a vehicle in 'drive.' That agent had every single opportunity to simply take two steps to the right and not be standing directly in front of a vehicle attempting to conduct their legal right to drive away.
"You can see the wheels are turned, [Renee] backed up and turned them to the right, moved forward a bit to leave, couldn't because an agent was standing in front of her, and continued to try to leave by TURNING HER WHEELS TO THE RIGHT and moving forward. He continually chose to stand there and not allow her to legally leave as she had every single right to do.
The officer pulling on her door and banging on her window and swearing at her had ZERO authority to order her out of her vehicle or attempt to make entry into her vehicle. NONE. A single day of actual training of the legal scope of authority and the LAW would've prevented that from happening.
"You now have a frightened citizen being blockaded by immigration agents (with another person in her vehicle) who had zero obligation to follow legally invalid orders from that agent, being blocked in and having a fully grown, masked man attempting to make entry into her car. If this were reversed, every single person would immediately feel she had every reasonable expectation to fear for her safety. It doesn't matter if she knew it was ICE because the agents weren't even acting in their scope of authority anyway.
"Whether or not she made the right decision by very CLEARLY- based off of how hard her wheels were turned and how low and to the driver corner windshield that shot was fired- trying to drive to the left of that agent is IRRELEVANT in the picture as a whole.
None of this would have happened if those agents had done even one single thing correctly. Not just correctly, but within their legal scope of authority.
Every single moment of that interaction was escalated by untrained, unprofessional, procedurally inept "agents" who not only had zero control of themselves but everything around them. And not because they are helpless, but because their actions that did not fall under their scope of power CAUSED this.
Their tempers, lack of training, and the knowledge that they can get away with violating their own scope of authority caused this.
"I will always be the first to defend law enforcement when lethal force very clearly is required. But this was not even remotely the case, and as an actual TRAINED professional in that field with experience and understanding of both the law and procedures, there is no justification for this- and it would benefit EVERYONE to actually read up on the laws, scope of authority, and use a single shred of common sense to see that this situation was started, escalated, and caused by the ICE agents involved. I have zero respect for those in power who are ignorant of the scope of their authority and abuse it at the cost of lives around them.""
It's clear that you didn't see the slow-motion analysis that Tim Pool did. He felt like you at first, until he studied that video in slo-mo. It clearly showed that she gunned that vehicle with the ICE agent in front of it. Had her wheels not spun out on the ice -- which is clearly shown in the video -- she would've mowed that agent down. The agent shot because he heard the revving up of the engine, & KNEW that she was trying to run over him.
1. Ice Agents were within the scope of their legal authority - the " suspect " was actively interfering with their lawful duties. 2. They can arrest legal citizens who are interfering with their lawful duties. 3. One shot or three makes no difference - when deadly force is justified. 4. Determination on deadly threat and the legal use of force needs to be based on totality of circumstances and investigated facts. 5. Procedurally correct is an argumentative ( not legal ) assumption - as is the assumed " fear/threat analysis of the victim. 6. The victim was actively instigating the ICE Officer and was in the area specifically to do so. 7.Upon lawful commands given, she had no " legal right" to drive away. 8. The interaction between officers and victim was escalated by untrained / unprofessional conduct - I'll give you some leeway there, as a police tactics trainer I fully believe that a majority of trained and experienced officers would respond less aggressively.
My last thot does not change the legal justification that exists with this incident, as a former officer, your analysis expresses emotion, not reality. Both aspects play a part, but the officers actions were legally justified - deal with it.
There are two government entities fighting each other. It boils down simply to this. The feds have jurisdiction to go in and then arrest illegal criminals in our country. The state of Minnesota the city of Minneapolis are blocking that, they are not cooperating with the federal government, Text book insurrection !! The federal government is doing its legal job to make us safe from those that would harm us when the local government are not intervening or helping and they are releasing illegal criminals back into our society. It is left up to our federal government to take care and make sure we are all safe. That’s all this is about!!! and the interference of these protestors and the violence should Steven A Smith prove to you what is really going on and blaming it on Trump and our ice agents is incorrect.
Tear down America radical politicians and behind the scenes far left agents of subversion fuel most all this anti ICE interference and rioting in minnesota. That is obvious and this greatly endangers all involved. These radical politicians and far left agents got Renee Good shot dead.
Liz Collin of Alpha News posted a ride along video on youtube where the Director of the St Paul, Minnesota Regional ICE Office explained how effective cooperation between ICE and local law enforcement used to work (and still does in non "sanctuary" jurisdictions) when as a young ICE officer he would go to the minneapolis and st paul jails in the morning to check arrest records, "interview aliens right at the jail, ... do my investigations, place detainers and we would we'd pick up between five and 10, sometimes 15 people, and (2 officers would) then bring them back to the office to process."
Liz Collin provides background for this important 2 and 1/2 minute portion of the video starting at 6:10 into the video with "sanctuary policies that prohibit cooperation pose another set of challenges for ICE in deporting criminals from Minnesota. Just weeks after President Trump took office, Attorney General Keith Ellison said that under Minnesota state law, law enforcement agencies can't hold someone on just an immigration detainer. This poses substantial risks for everyone involved and the public because instead of making arrests at jails, ICE officers have to track and make arrests at homes, places of work, and in public where situations are typically less safe."
EXCLUSIVE: Alpha News rides along with ICE, captures arrest of former state employee on camera
note: the public safety endangerment aspect of sanctuary policies that endanger all when of 7 or 8 officers are out on the street after 1 criminal alien vs 1 or 2 officers picking up 7 or 8 criminal aliens from the jail - as well as the exponentially higher costs to the taxpayer and ongoing risks from excessive delays in getting criminal aliens off our streets.
PS I Am pro-immigration when immigration is under the control of enlightened immigration ccontrols
I appreciate Steve Smith being somewhat introspective regarding the motivations of the Left. This is what I fail to comprehend:
1. Trump stopped the RINOs from caving to the Dems and once again facilitating a new invasion of illegal aliens turned magically into American citizens. We did not, and still do not, need “comprehensive” immigration reform. I would agree with issuing additional TEMPORARY work visas, but not wholesale opening the floodgates to new voters for the Democrat party. These people then must go home; any children born to them while here are NOT American citizens.
2. Smith obviously only listens to MSM if the optics, in his opinion, make Trump and ICE look bad. If he viewed what is going on with an unbiased mind (one that does not make any Trump action illegal, unconstitutional, or inhumane) he would understand that any person crossing the border has broken federal law and is a criminal.
But I give him some credit in that he is at least willing to entertain the thought that the Left might be to blame.
Vigilant Fox, here is something for you to please consider:
"If you collect 100 black ants and 100 fire ants and put them in a glass jar nothing will happen.
But if you take the jar, shake it violently and leave it on the table, the ants will start killing each other.
Reds believe that black is the enemy, while black believes that red is the enemy, when the real enemy is the person who shook the jar. The same is true in society.
Men vs Women Black vs White Faith vs Science Youngs vs Old etc...
Before we fight each other, we must ask ourselves: Who rocked the jar?"
Please read this article, it lays bare the havoc they are causing:
There is something way bigger going on when you can divide everyone in the entire world into an 'us vs them' mentality on almost every single subject. —Prevensilk: https://tritorch.substack.com/p/there-is-something-way-bigger-going
There is something way bigger going on when you can divide everyone in the entire world into an 'us vs them' mentality on almost every single subject.. We cannot let them get away with these ridiculous ancient divide and conquer tactics...
It is us vs the 1%. That’s always how its been. Every single red and blue voter on the planet has way more in common with each other, and shares way more of the same values with one another, than both of them combined vs the 1% who consider us cattle. They are our predators. We work to enrich them. They feast on our efforts and divide us, while working to replace us with AI, and raining down scorn.
He Is a manslaughter-er or murderer. One or the other.
Am a conservative but will not BLINDLY follow the narrative of the Right on this.
She is turning away, he is out of the way, leans over the hood to blow her face off.
THREE friggin' shots!
Calls her a bitch. Guy has an attitude problem.
Not his first encounter. Flagrant to protocol. Tragedy waiting to happen. It did.
He should have a desk job.
To think she wanted to run him over and murder him - which is the prevailing narrative - is ridiculous.
The question now, is whether this ICE goonhead gets charged for manslaughter or murder.
>The legality of them trying to stop her in the first place, and. just what is ICE's is legal authority?
"By: Adam Miller
"It is clear that US citizens' ignorance of federal laws and law enforcement duties, procedures, and limits of authority is getting to the point where it is deadly. I spent probably 3 hours watching and re-watching, and finding every single video and angle I could of the situation in Minnesota yesterday and came to one immovable conclusion based off of what I saw and what I know from a professional standpoint. This is long, but please give it a read.
"As a former officer, let me make something clear: ICE agents ARE NOT police officers, deputy sheriffs, or troopers. They are not local/state law enforcement. They are not federal criminal law enforcement. They have an INCREDIBLY limited scope of authority, and that scope of authority exists in detaining and arresting with probable cause and/or SIGNED WARRANTS those investigated and suspected of being in the US illegally.
"They cannot just pull anyone over for a traffic violation or because their car is in a place they don't want it. They have NO authority to pull people over for ANYTHING other than immigration enforcement- and even then that involves probable cause, such as a known vehicle of someone they have been tracking, or a warrant.
On very rare occasions they have the legal authority to pull someone over if they are threatening the lives of others, but that was not happening in this case. They do not have the training nor the authority to pull ANYONE else over. They cannot arrest legal citizens. They cannot detain legal citizens without probable cause to believe they might not be legal. They have ZERO authority to be attempting to force entry into a vehicle- without even identifying themselves, without a warrant, without exigent circumstances such as a life being directly threatened- that is trying to drive down the street without probable cause in relation to IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.
"This ENTIRE situation in Minnesota was outside of the scope of legal authority from the get go. None of it was done within the scope of authority of ICE. Every single behavior those agents made was procedurally incorrect, done without proper authority, and was based off of intimidation and the assumption that people do not understand the law and their rights in regards to interactions with ICE.
"On no planet should an officer, agent, or any human being ever step in front of a car in 'drive' that is actively trying to leave and use their body as a shield to prevent a person from LEGALLY LEAVING a situation in which they are not legally being detained. It takes maybe a week of any kind of actual law enforcement training to understand that under NO CIRCUMSTANCES do you ever place yourself in front of a vehicle in 'drive.' That agent had every single opportunity to simply take two steps to the right and not be standing directly in front of a vehicle attempting to conduct their legal right to drive away.
"You can see the wheels are turned, [Renee] backed up and turned them to the right, moved forward a bit to leave, couldn't because an agent was standing in front of her, and continued to try to leave by TURNING HER WHEELS TO THE RIGHT and moving forward. He continually chose to stand there and not allow her to legally leave as she had every single right to do.
The officer pulling on her door and banging on her window and swearing at her had ZERO authority to order her out of her vehicle or attempt to make entry into her vehicle. NONE. A single day of actual training of the legal scope of authority and the LAW would've prevented that from happening.
"You now have a frightened citizen being blockaded by immigration agents (with another person in her vehicle) who had zero obligation to follow legally invalid orders from that agent, being blocked in and having a fully grown, masked man attempting to make entry into her car. If this were reversed, every single person would immediately feel she had every reasonable expectation to fear for her safety. It doesn't matter if she knew it was ICE because the agents weren't even acting in their scope of authority anyway.
"Whether or not she made the right decision by very CLEARLY- based off of how hard her wheels were turned and how low and to the driver corner windshield that shot was fired- trying to drive to the left of that agent is IRRELEVANT in the picture as a whole.
None of this would have happened if those agents had done even one single thing correctly. Not just correctly, but within their legal scope of authority.
Every single moment of that interaction was escalated by untrained, unprofessional, procedurally inept "agents" who not only had zero control of themselves but everything around them. And not because they are helpless, but because their actions that did not fall under their scope of power CAUSED this.
Their tempers, lack of training, and the knowledge that they can get away with violating their own scope of authority caused this.
"I will always be the first to defend law enforcement when lethal force very clearly is required. But this was not even remotely the case, and as an actual TRAINED professional in that field with experience and understanding of both the law and procedures, there is no justification for this- and it would benefit EVERYONE to actually read up on the laws, scope of authority, and use a single shred of common sense to see that this situation was started, escalated, and caused by the ICE agents involved. I have zero respect for those in power who are ignorant of the scope of their authority and abuse it at the cost of lives around them.""
It's clear that you didn't see the slow-motion analysis that Tim Pool did. He felt like you at first, until he studied that video in slo-mo. It clearly showed that she gunned that vehicle with the ICE agent in front of it. Had her wheels not spun out on the ice -- which is clearly shown in the video -- she would've mowed that agent down. The agent shot because he heard the revving up of the engine, & KNEW that she was trying to run over him.
You might want to watch this. https://www.vigilantfox.com/p/tim-pool-presents-slowed-down-footage?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email#media-723a9bc5-70de-4b75-acea-d375836c4ed3
Yes! 🙌 ❤️
Thank you for this voice of reason 👍
Pretty obvious that she was trying to flee.
Especially The second and third shots from the side window
1. Ice Agents were within the scope of their legal authority - the " suspect " was actively interfering with their lawful duties. 2. They can arrest legal citizens who are interfering with their lawful duties. 3. One shot or three makes no difference - when deadly force is justified. 4. Determination on deadly threat and the legal use of force needs to be based on totality of circumstances and investigated facts. 5. Procedurally correct is an argumentative ( not legal ) assumption - as is the assumed " fear/threat analysis of the victim. 6. The victim was actively instigating the ICE Officer and was in the area specifically to do so. 7.Upon lawful commands given, she had no " legal right" to drive away. 8. The interaction between officers and victim was escalated by untrained / unprofessional conduct - I'll give you some leeway there, as a police tactics trainer I fully believe that a majority of trained and experienced officers would respond less aggressively.
My last thot does not change the legal justification that exists with this incident, as a former officer, your analysis expresses emotion, not reality. Both aspects play a part, but the officers actions were legally justified - deal with it.
There are two government entities fighting each other. It boils down simply to this. The feds have jurisdiction to go in and then arrest illegal criminals in our country. The state of Minnesota the city of Minneapolis are blocking that, they are not cooperating with the federal government, Text book insurrection !! The federal government is doing its legal job to make us safe from those that would harm us when the local government are not intervening or helping and they are releasing illegal criminals back into our society. It is left up to our federal government to take care and make sure we are all safe. That’s all this is about!!! and the interference of these protestors and the violence should Steven A Smith prove to you what is really going on and blaming it on Trump and our ice agents is incorrect.
Tear down America radical politicians and behind the scenes far left agents of subversion fuel most all this anti ICE interference and rioting in minnesota. That is obvious and this greatly endangers all involved. These radical politicians and far left agents got Renee Good shot dead.
Liz Collin of Alpha News posted a ride along video on youtube where the Director of the St Paul, Minnesota Regional ICE Office explained how effective cooperation between ICE and local law enforcement used to work (and still does in non "sanctuary" jurisdictions) when as a young ICE officer he would go to the minneapolis and st paul jails in the morning to check arrest records, "interview aliens right at the jail, ... do my investigations, place detainers and we would we'd pick up between five and 10, sometimes 15 people, and (2 officers would) then bring them back to the office to process."
Liz Collin provides background for this important 2 and 1/2 minute portion of the video starting at 6:10 into the video with "sanctuary policies that prohibit cooperation pose another set of challenges for ICE in deporting criminals from Minnesota. Just weeks after President Trump took office, Attorney General Keith Ellison said that under Minnesota state law, law enforcement agencies can't hold someone on just an immigration detainer. This poses substantial risks for everyone involved and the public because instead of making arrests at jails, ICE officers have to track and make arrests at homes, places of work, and in public where situations are typically less safe."
EXCLUSIVE: Alpha News rides along with ICE, captures arrest of former state employee on camera
Alpha News https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAmSa4Bv8DI&t=106s
note: the public safety endangerment aspect of sanctuary policies that endanger all when of 7 or 8 officers are out on the street after 1 criminal alien vs 1 or 2 officers picking up 7 or 8 criminal aliens from the jail - as well as the exponentially higher costs to the taxpayer and ongoing risks from excessive delays in getting criminal aliens off our streets.
PS I Am pro-immigration when immigration is under the control of enlightened immigration ccontrols
Renee WAS murdered
2 head shots from The side as she was driving away
That’s complete incompetence.
When looking at murder investigations, when there are repeated stabbings/shots these show anger.
Here, in addition to the first shot, the second and third shots further show his uncontrolled anger.
All these shots have nothing to do with himself in danger.
"fuckin' bitch" he calls her.
This guy is a psycho and should have been weeded out of ICE.
I appreciate Steve Smith being somewhat introspective regarding the motivations of the Left. This is what I fail to comprehend:
1. Trump stopped the RINOs from caving to the Dems and once again facilitating a new invasion of illegal aliens turned magically into American citizens. We did not, and still do not, need “comprehensive” immigration reform. I would agree with issuing additional TEMPORARY work visas, but not wholesale opening the floodgates to new voters for the Democrat party. These people then must go home; any children born to them while here are NOT American citizens.
2. Smith obviously only listens to MSM if the optics, in his opinion, make Trump and ICE look bad. If he viewed what is going on with an unbiased mind (one that does not make any Trump action illegal, unconstitutional, or inhumane) he would understand that any person crossing the border has broken federal law and is a criminal.
But I give him some credit in that he is at least willing to entertain the thought that the Left might be to blame.
News flash - THEY ARE. ENTIRELY.