Did impressionable children know the background of the island’s owner?
Was the predator present at the time of the visit?
Was there any hint of nefarious activities there that innocent children might have witnessed?
If the answer to these questions is no, I fail to see what questions of judgment can legitimately be raised. All I see is that a father and husband took his family to a tropical island resort not unlike any number of Caribbean island destinations in that chain of atolls.
We adults cannot infer from what we know about Epstein and what had taken place there at other times that impressionable children were subject to anything untoward. I smell this entire incident as solely an attempt to smear a political target.
Many lack wisdom. Knowing a child predator who served time reigned over a place that just happens to be beautiful does not make it okay. One’s own island where nefarious things took place. You don’t play footies with the devil no matter who one thinks their friend is. Would not want to partake in this to bring down judgment on our household and turn a blind eye and expect acceptance for my children. Beyond belief this society can literally dismiss and explain anything away.
The child predator had not yet been convicted nor imprisoned when these visits took place.
Please do not mistake my post for any type of exculpatory comment on the vile, inexcusable acts of child trafficking and sexual abuse performed by this evil person, Epstein.
Didn’t Alan Dershowitz take his wife to Epstein’s island? Dershowitz had been Epstein’s attorney and knew about Epstein’s history. One of the “victims” accused Dershowitz of some impropriety and Dershowitz sued her for defamation. She could not prove anything and the case was either dropped or she lost. The Clintons, Bill, Hillary AND Chelsea stayed at Epstein’s ranch. Certainly they knew of Epstein’s history too.
Let's not forget about Jeff's Mossad controller Ghislaine who lured many of these young girls in and who is presently rotting in a cushy prison cell .... sorry, sunning herself on one of numerous private islands or out shopping in Milan with an infinite credit card.
Didn't Trump wish her well after she was supposedly incarcerated? I wonder how many other child kidnappers, torturers, rapists and murderers he wishes well after sentencing?
Very sorry to see Maria Zee going in an Owens-like direction on TPUSA, complete with speculation on Erika Kirk seeming "suspiciously" upbeat about merch sales, and an unearned statement that the government narrative here makes zero sense.
She could have reported on AL's video, and the subsequent visit by a photographer, as well as general TPUSA firing patterns, without any of that kind of framing.
We need Ms. Zee to proceed more carefully--her work in a number of other areas is important. She needs to understand, and very clearly, that we are never returning to giving the likes of Owens the benefit of the doubt, not after what entailed this last fall.
People have many billions of different ways of grieving and Erika Kirk is most certainly not grieving. The mark (Charlie) was proving troublesome so he had to go. No more to it than that in her head or those of "his protection team" none of whom flinched an inch when he was murdered right in front of them.
Why would any decent parent do that unless they felt the game was rigged against them unless they dined with creatures like Epstein. Decent parents would rather be poor and keep their children safe.
Look at the parents, mainly mothers it must be said, that stood by while Joe Biden pawed their very young daughters in front of hundreds of people ........ and did nothing, not even a kick in the balls never mind what he deserves. The traitor Jeff Sessions battered Biden's hand away from his grandaughter and clearly from the look on Sessions' face he knew what Biden was so how come grandfather Jeff never told all the other grandfathers what Biden was?
People are pressurised into accepting wrong things and it is long past time those protecting these monsters up until this very day, this is still going on, arrested them ......... or ........
A few years ago that was going on in a gated community in my town of about twenty five thousand. They also shutdown a massage parlor/ prostitution business being run out of a nice house just outside of the same town.
One would never expect it in a town that has a church on just about every street corner.
Have heard of a survivor who was trafficked from age 5 by someone in their church. And threatened that their mother would be k1lled if ever the little girl said something. Heartbreaking.
In the end, nothing will ever come of this huge dumping of information. This takes manpower, but what will it actually accomplish? Meanwhile, there is active activity, that is ignored. Bad things happened and bad things are happening. The rich and famous, get the Press.
A severe lack of judgement! Absolutely, in the case of Howard Lugnut (oops ... I meant Lutnick -- I don't have to pretend to shield him, since his name was already made public). After his brilliant performance at Davos, he shows up in the notes of Epstein. And it's about him taking the family to Epstein Island!
My only question: Did they fly on the Lolita Express?
And this spew is just the tippy-top of the Epstein-Iceberg...This is just a 'GIANT Ball' of crime the NewWorldOdour will toss into the Ring-Of-Fire of dozens of other 'Bouncing-Balls' to keep you minds and thoughts and eyes,ears and Minds OCCUPIED , while under the cover of ''Bullshit' the sneeakie baby raping Jews and Jesuits-Masons and Mormons (and assorted Paedophiles) will pump up the output power of random RF Frequencies to add to your mental confusion and 'diseases'.....as all 'Diseases' are the results of RF Radiation...and this is PROVEN and PUBLISHED over 125 years age >>> https://www.gutenberg.org/files/18986/18986-h/18986-h.htm <<
Surely having wholesome families enjoying innocent tropical holidays on the island was part of Epstein’s cover for his less wholesome activities? In the UK our own celebrity paedo extraordinaire (Jimmy Savile) used his charity work to make him untouchable. And his victims were pre pubescent children, incapacitated in hospitals where he volunteered as a night porter.
Why would any decent parent do that unless they felt the game was rigged against them unless they dined with creatures like Epstein. Decent parents would rather be poor and keep their children safe.
Look at the parents, mainly mothers it must be said, that stood by while Joe Biden pawed their very young daughters in front of hundreds of people ........ and did nothing, not even a kick in the balls never mind what he deserves. The traitor Jeff Sessions battered Biden's hand away from his grandaughter and clearly from the look on Sessions' face he knew what Biden was so how come grandfather Jeff never told all the other grandfathers what Biden was?
People are pressurised into accepting wrong things and it is long past time those protecting these monsters up until this very day, this is still going on, arrested them ......... or ........
Why would any decent parent do that unless they felt the game was rigged against them unless they dined with creatures like Epstein. Decent parents would rather be poor and keep their children safe.
Look at the parents, mainly mothers it must be said, that stood by while Joe Biden pawed their very young daughters in front of hundreds of people ........ and did nothing, not even a kick in the balls never mind what he deserves. The traitor Jeff Sessions battered Biden's hand away from his grandaughter and clearly from the look on Sessions' face he knew what Biden was so how come grandfather Jeff never told all the other grandfathers what Biden was?
People are pressurised into accepting wrong things and it is long past time those protecting these monsters up until this very day, this is still going on, arrested them ......... or ........
I'm officially done with TVF. Gossip mongering tripe. Maria Zeee's dramatic outrage as she herself sprew s"he may well have not committed any crimes, no one is saying he did..."
News flash - NOT "journalism". And you do not behave as a reputable journalist.
"The names they didn't want you to see are now public."
If they didn't "want you to see" them, they would not be public.
Reality has devolved into the Jerry Springer show.....on purpose.
OMG Jerry Springer...................lol......one step above the (Mister)Oprah Winfrey Show or lower then Judge Judy (gagg me with a spoon)
Redactions are not necessarily for a cover-up. Everyone knew about Les Wexner…he was no secret associate.
Some questions:
Taking family to an island.
Did impressionable children know the background of the island’s owner?
Was the predator present at the time of the visit?
Was there any hint of nefarious activities there that innocent children might have witnessed?
If the answer to these questions is no, I fail to see what questions of judgment can legitimately be raised. All I see is that a father and husband took his family to a tropical island resort not unlike any number of Caribbean island destinations in that chain of atolls.
We adults cannot infer from what we know about Epstein and what had taken place there at other times that impressionable children were subject to anything untoward. I smell this entire incident as solely an attempt to smear a political target.
Many lack wisdom. Knowing a child predator who served time reigned over a place that just happens to be beautiful does not make it okay. One’s own island where nefarious things took place. You don’t play footies with the devil no matter who one thinks their friend is. Would not want to partake in this to bring down judgment on our household and turn a blind eye and expect acceptance for my children. Beyond belief this society can literally dismiss and explain anything away.
The child predator had not yet been convicted nor imprisoned when these visits took place.
Please do not mistake my post for any type of exculpatory comment on the vile, inexcusable acts of child trafficking and sexual abuse performed by this evil person, Epstein.
Didn’t Alan Dershowitz take his wife to Epstein’s island? Dershowitz had been Epstein’s attorney and knew about Epstein’s history. One of the “victims” accused Dershowitz of some impropriety and Dershowitz sued her for defamation. She could not prove anything and the case was either dropped or she lost. The Clintons, Bill, Hillary AND Chelsea stayed at Epstein’s ranch. Certainly they knew of Epstein’s history too.
That would not surprise me. But the question still stands, were the children aware of who owned the island and what went on there?
I cannot imagine a parent taking a child who was then aware of what went on there bringing his children to that place.
Predators nor predator.
Let's not forget about Jeff's Mossad controller Ghislaine who lured many of these young girls in and who is presently rotting in a cushy prison cell .... sorry, sunning herself on one of numerous private islands or out shopping in Milan with an infinite credit card.
Didn't Trump wish her well after she was supposedly incarcerated? I wonder how many other child kidnappers, torturers, rapists and murderers he wishes well after sentencing?
Very sorry to see Maria Zee going in an Owens-like direction on TPUSA, complete with speculation on Erika Kirk seeming "suspiciously" upbeat about merch sales, and an unearned statement that the government narrative here makes zero sense.
She could have reported on AL's video, and the subsequent visit by a photographer, as well as general TPUSA firing patterns, without any of that kind of framing.
We need Ms. Zee to proceed more carefully--her work in a number of other areas is important. She needs to understand, and very clearly, that we are never returning to giving the likes of Owens the benefit of the doubt, not after what entailed this last fall.
People have many billions of different ways of grieving and Erika Kirk is most certainly not grieving. The mark (Charlie) was proving troublesome so he had to go. No more to it than that in her head or those of "his protection team" none of whom flinched an inch when he was murdered right in front of them.
Candace rocks!!
How does that woman know who sent the photographer?
Why would any decent parent do that unless they felt the game was rigged against them unless they dined with creatures like Epstein. Decent parents would rather be poor and keep their children safe.
Look at the parents, mainly mothers it must be said, that stood by while Joe Biden pawed their very young daughters in front of hundreds of people ........ and did nothing, not even a kick in the balls never mind what he deserves. The traitor Jeff Sessions battered Biden's hand away from his grandaughter and clearly from the look on Sessions' face he knew what Biden was so how come grandfather Jeff never told all the other grandfathers what Biden was?
People are pressurised into accepting wrong things and it is long past time those protecting these monsters up until this very day, this is still going on, arrested them ......... or ........
So. Where are the other five names? I despise this bait and switch “reporting” crap.
Sex trafficking is in every large city, and this Epstein stuff, is rightly called a gossip project to embarrass the rich and famous.
Meanwhile, the lowly, are abused!
Please, Fox, contact, Vets4ChildRescue. And let’s help, those, that need the help, the most.
Correction: sex trafficking is in every city, including the small ones.
You are correct.
A few years ago that was going on in a gated community in my town of about twenty five thousand. They also shutdown a massage parlor/ prostitution business being run out of a nice house just outside of the same town.
One would never expect it in a town that has a church on just about every street corner.
Have heard of a survivor who was trafficked from age 5 by someone in their church. And threatened that their mother would be k1lled if ever the little girl said something. Heartbreaking.
Ruth
Yes, I don’t doubt it at all.
Unfortunately all of our institutions including some of our churches have been infiltrated by evil doers.
Yes, all of it is heartbreaking on so many levels !!!
You are probably, correct. Let’s start where, where the largest concentration is.
Gossip? Wait until the videos are released onto the internet and they say they are AI until proved otherwise. Gossip? OMG!!!!
In the end, nothing will ever come of this huge dumping of information. This takes manpower, but what will it actually accomplish? Meanwhile, there is active activity, that is ignored. Bad things happened and bad things are happening. The rich and famous, get the Press.
"Praise God from whom all (true) blessings flow..."! (The Doxology.)
https://youtu.be/1yzHiOTI4Fk
My video on the Epstein files
It is up to President Trump to light a fire! The DOJ needs to do their job!
A severe lack of judgement! Absolutely, in the case of Howard Lugnut (oops ... I meant Lutnick -- I don't have to pretend to shield him, since his name was already made public). After his brilliant performance at Davos, he shows up in the notes of Epstein. And it's about him taking the family to Epstein Island!
My only question: Did they fly on the Lolita Express?
They were on a family boat trip. Boat.
And this spew is just the tippy-top of the Epstein-Iceberg...This is just a 'GIANT Ball' of crime the NewWorldOdour will toss into the Ring-Of-Fire of dozens of other 'Bouncing-Balls' to keep you minds and thoughts and eyes,ears and Minds OCCUPIED , while under the cover of ''Bullshit' the sneeakie baby raping Jews and Jesuits-Masons and Mormons (and assorted Paedophiles) will pump up the output power of random RF Frequencies to add to your mental confusion and 'diseases'.....as all 'Diseases' are the results of RF Radiation...and this is PROVEN and PUBLISHED over 125 years age >>> https://www.gutenberg.org/files/18986/18986-h/18986-h.htm <<
J.C.Bose experiments have been done thousands of ntimes over that 125 years to include every living thing on earth..including HUMAN Life....its RF Radiation like 4G and 5G ....and was repeated by Marconi on the Isle of Wight written in Firstenbergs Book of '>>>>> https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/The-Invisible-Rainbow-by-Arthur-Firstenberg/9781645020097?gad_source=5&gad_campaignid=20930677579 <<<
Be assured, an evil person will not go unpunished. Proverbs 11:21
Surely having wholesome families enjoying innocent tropical holidays on the island was part of Epstein’s cover for his less wholesome activities? In the UK our own celebrity paedo extraordinaire (Jimmy Savile) used his charity work to make him untouchable. And his victims were pre pubescent children, incapacitated in hospitals where he volunteered as a night porter.
Why would any decent parent do that unless they felt the game was rigged against them unless they dined with creatures like Epstein. Decent parents would rather be poor and keep their children safe.
Look at the parents, mainly mothers it must be said, that stood by while Joe Biden pawed their very young daughters in front of hundreds of people ........ and did nothing, not even a kick in the balls never mind what he deserves. The traitor Jeff Sessions battered Biden's hand away from his grandaughter and clearly from the look on Sessions' face he knew what Biden was so how come grandfather Jeff never told all the other grandfathers what Biden was?
People are pressurised into accepting wrong things and it is long past time those protecting these monsters up until this very day, this is still going on, arrested them ......... or ........
Why would any decent parent do that unless they felt the game was rigged against them unless they dined with creatures like Epstein. Decent parents would rather be poor and keep their children safe.
Look at the parents, mainly mothers it must be said, that stood by while Joe Biden pawed their very young daughters in front of hundreds of people ........ and did nothing, not even a kick in the balls never mind what he deserves. The traitor Jeff Sessions battered Biden's hand away from his grandaughter and clearly from the look on Sessions' face he knew what Biden was so how come grandfather Jeff never told all the other grandfathers what Biden was?
People are pressurised into accepting wrong things and it is long past time those protecting these monsters up until this very day, this is still going on, arrested them ......... or ........
I'm officially done with TVF. Gossip mongering tripe. Maria Zeee's dramatic outrage as she herself sprew s"he may well have not committed any crimes, no one is saying he did..."
News flash - NOT "journalism". And you do not behave as a reputable journalist.
Good riddance.