Yes, he didn’t fight when they stole the nomination away from him. Maybe they threatened his life and his family’s, and made him back off. We will never know, but it sure felt like a betrayal.
Because he's honest enough to admit the uncomfortable TRUTH: although today's Democrats are horrible, Trump is far far worse. Many people here realize it but won't admit it.
Given a choice between Killary and Trump, it's an easy choice.
That said, whether or not he is aware, he is surrounded by Technocrats who are likely very busy right now dismantling the old system of government, and in the process of installing the digital control grid, the algorithm ghetto that the Technocrats need to thoroughly enslave us.
Of course the stealth ruling class globalists who bribe and blackmail (by various Epstein-like honeypots, and surely the NSA snooping on their every move and conversations dig up dirt there as well) our politicians, have corrupted our governments for decades, and so of course we get to now discover mountains of corruption and waste, but that was done by design to control our governments and to guide the spending of the huge amounts of tax revenues... now Americans are going to be sold the idea that government does not work, that it can never work, and that we need a whole new system... this is where Technocracy is going to be sold to the people.
Of course it won't openly be sold as Technocracy, but in the end that is what will get implemented to seal our fates.
Just because Killary, Obomba, and the rest of the maniacs are too repulsive to consider doesn't mean that one now has to put on rose-coloured glasses whenever looking in Trump's direction.
One must still observe and assess what they are doing with open eyes and critical analysis and speak out if things are found to be against our own interests.
Absolutely! Their downfall will be their narcissistic desire to reveal. They still fear the masses due to our sheer numbers, and why they want to cull. Another failure but they won't stop trying. Actions, not words, will show the truth.
You don't get to be US president or a senator these days without being part of the regime. Trump is no worse and no better than any of the rest of them, they are all traitors as they put the occupiers of Palestine and not the American people at the forefront of their policies every single time. Two cheeks of the same arse as George Galloway puts it so well.
What a load of crap. As usual, going where the wind blows. He’s only talking now as he’s got nothing to lose. He’s raked in lots of money all these past decades. What did he have to say then? Did anyone ask him any objective questions, such as how about all that Pharma $ you were happy to accept? This reminds me of sour grapes, like Hillary’s interviews about ‘stolen’ elections. Meh.
If Bernie were truly dissing the Dems, he would have done it when they pushed him out of the primaries. This is all just fodder to keep people thinking that their voting means something, Red or Blue. We all know it doesn't mean a thing. Even Bernie knows it's all a sham. He isn't going to stop playing in the sham. Why would he?
Him being this honest while lying and doing the DNC's bidding for years is concerning. I wonder if he's still on their leash or he finally stood up.
I liked him before. I even campaigned for him, twice! The DNC did him dirty and he still bent over for them. Plus he took almost 2 million for big pharma workers. I'm not trusting he's out of their control just yet. I'm just glad he didn't endorse AOC 😂!
I campaigned for him twice, too.. The second time was at a friend's behest.... let's just say, the first time it was because there was a national discussion that needed to be had and wouldn't be without him or someone of his bent in the race. The second time, it was to see what was going on in his campaign and see how that discussion was faring. The organization of the second campaign piqued my curiosity, with their use of supervols and the way they arranged to control grassroots energy from the outset. In my view there was something off about the way it was structured and I wasn't expecting how it evolved but I think they were... what did you think? What role did you play in round two?
Both times I only did door to door knocking and talking to people. So I wasn't involved in anything deeper. My support eventually wavered a bit to Tulsi Gabbard mid way through to be honest. I'd agree that his first campaign had more energy and was more 'natural'. The way he just gave up the second time seemed different too. I think he was actually upset the first time but by the second I think the DNC was controlling him more. I think Tusli cared more about it than him! Idk how he can continue to support the DNC after what they did to him.
I think you're right on all counts. It was very different the second time around... the people who naturally became "supervols" the first time around were asked to be field coordinators, and then they were trained in such a rigid, scripted way that the whole thing turned into this way of stamping out people who would repeat scripts at doors, and blob-viral get their friends roped in via an app... the campaign seemed to me to have spent a lot of time figuring out any way the volunteers could put in more energy than the campaign wanted, then making sure that would be nipped in the bud.
There was more to it than that...
When Bernie decided to concede, he told all the coordinators he would speak to them about it, then it was just a Zoom meeting with a canned speech from him.
It was canned all the way up and down...
But the volunteers were converted into activated weaponry for promoting other political goals, so rapidly that I'm certain, that was pre-planned too.
When I heard from people I called on the phone that they mistrusted him after 2016, I certainly couldn't disagree with them.
I hear you on Tulsi Gabbard. I think she was more passionate and honestly invested, too. She certainly risked more.
Well, I don't actually know how much Bernie would have risked if he'd walked away from that fateful 2016 meeting with Obama without having given in. I don't necessarily agree with others that he was roughed up, but I am absolutely certain that "they" will play as rough as they need to. And he seems to be convinced of a "big picture" strategy for which he's willing to throw over this or that "local" battle. I think he does conceive of any presidential campaign as yes, a local battle, compared to the bigger picture of some war that may be in his mind alone.
I don't mean that as an excuse. I don't think it's defensible to conceive of a "war" as he does, for I think his evaluations of the risks involved are flawed. I just mean, I think that's what he's been doing.
But it's nice to meet someone who got out there on the sidewalks! It is really a learning experience to talk to people at their doors, isn't it. I recommend it for anyone, and not just the one-shift approach that many people took... that's not enough to feel the contact with the rest of the populace. It really was an experience I wouldn't give up. Especially since the door lists were so bad, in 2016 particularly, I ended up talking to all sorts of people from all sorts of political affiliations. It's a great way to break out of one's own silo.
Yeah I'd agree with all of that. In 2016 it was very different. I really do think the DNC finally was able to get dirt on him or were holding something over his head. Especially to get him to endorse Biden! I did enjoy the experience though, and I think I might have got through to a couple of people on the fence. Bernie used to be an independent and he was able to bridge that middle ground. I know a lot of people who went from Bernie to Trump after 2020, which would seem like a leap, but for working class people I don't think it was much of a leap. The democratic party is the one that changed, not me. They got their claws into Bernie too. That's why I'm very surprised to see him saying what he is now.
That switch from Bernie to Trump isn't/wasn't that much of a leap at all, not in 2020 and not in 2016! Especially when one considers that in 2016 Trump spoke truthfully about how the DNC's primary had been handled... people who aren't the DNC laptop class did quickly hear about that, and do remember from 2016 to 4 years later--it might surprise DNC stalwarts to learn that people held on to information for that long, but it wouldn't surprise anyone outside of that bubble. Trump and Bernie were both populists speaking to essentially the same pain in the working class, just in diffent ways. There were lots of people who would have preferred Bernie to Trump but simply were never going to vote for a "coastal elite", and the DNC strategists simply couldn't grapple with the specific mix of concerns those voters did have, and the mix of concerns which didn't figure as important for those voters at all.
In the end, fwiw, I think the 2024 election was just a battle between two factions of Silicon Valley money, Trump on one side, Kamala on the other (funded by other Silicon Valley billionaires with a different take on things).
Bernie just won election again in 2024. He's not up for reelection until 2030. He might be lowkey saying that he's not running for Senator again either, *although he has filed to run again but... or perhaps he has decided that he will bow out if his time is up, and so he might as well treat this as his last run of the day so to speak. Mayybe?
I hope so anyway so that is surely my wishful thinking speaking. We could stand to see him be a bit more of a gadfly. He got pretty smoothed-over and cozy there. There are independently-minded politicians such as Thomas Massie who are doing a better job at keeping their integrity. I hope he feels the challenge.
I hope so as well. I was very disappointed in Bernie when I heard he took in so much money from pharma workers. Trump's not my favorite person and I don't agree with everything, but I did vote for him this time. The gender crap was the last straw for me. Bernie at least always stayed out of it. I will admit that I jumped on the fear bandwagon in 2016 over Trump. But when Biden won and people were actually celebrating it, I woke up. It was a process but I've voted for the dems my whole life and now I won't vote for any if they can't define a woman. That's off topic though lol. I do hope you're right about Bernie. Although I wouldn't blame him for just bowing out and enjoying the rest of his life at this point away from politics.
History has been severely skewed. If all people knew the truth, that the KKK was formed by the democrat party to scare people into voting democrat, the party would be over and done.
Yes, Indeed! Bernie's talk and Fox reporting on it is to maintain the illusion of choice. We have no choice. MAGA might even lose 7 million followers when they take Medicaid away. The 1 per centers don't care. They get their tax break.
When he had the chance to really stand up to them (2016 and 2020), he stifled himself and hewed to the party line. So I’m not even a teensy bit interested in what he has to say now.
BOLD! Especially when he lives in multiple million dollar mansions all paid for by a lifelong leaching in government with a wife who also has no real income
Hey Vigilant Fox, since you're very good at presenting stories that "they" are trying to hide, I want to ask you to present a story about Biden's Turbo Cancer.
It seems like all the talking heads on the radio, TV, and internet, are ALL trying to sell the "cover-up" angle... and nobody mentions the spate of turbo cancer that has been going on for a while now.
To me, that's the 800 lb gorilla. It's shocking that nobody even mentions it. I mean, I can see why the big national TV and Radio outlets are selling the conspiracy angle (because they're all owned by big Pharma)... But even online, and even here on substack, I don't hear anyone mentioning the turbo cancer. What gives?
Sanders is no different than those dems he just described. For him to think the bartender green girl with absolutely no intelligence or life knowledge is great is like saying Greta knows about the earth.
He will talk big when nothing is on the line but he followed the script perfectly he was there to pull in votes for dnc for Killary
Comrade Bernie is doing what hes told NOW just like he did then. There is nothing honest about this.
Awww Fred , dribble from a Bibble.
Yes, he didn’t fight when they stole the nomination away from him. Maybe they threatened his life and his family’s, and made him back off. We will never know, but it sure felt like a betrayal.
Word is that he was given a multimillion $ grant from USAID in 2016 to “study democracy.” 🤣🤬
Read something over the last few days... supposedly he got $40 million?
Can't look it up, don't remember where I saw that.
I heard that he got a lovely beach house out of it on both occasions that he backed off.
Because he's honest enough to admit the uncomfortable TRUTH: although today's Democrats are horrible, Trump is far far worse. Many people here realize it but won't admit it.
Get some help.
TDS is incurable
Given a choice between Killary and Trump, it's an easy choice.
That said, whether or not he is aware, he is surrounded by Technocrats who are likely very busy right now dismantling the old system of government, and in the process of installing the digital control grid, the algorithm ghetto that the Technocrats need to thoroughly enslave us.
https://substack.com/@richardleger/note/c-118306317?
Of course the stealth ruling class globalists who bribe and blackmail (by various Epstein-like honeypots, and surely the NSA snooping on their every move and conversations dig up dirt there as well) our politicians, have corrupted our governments for decades, and so of course we get to now discover mountains of corruption and waste, but that was done by design to control our governments and to guide the spending of the huge amounts of tax revenues... now Americans are going to be sold the idea that government does not work, that it can never work, and that we need a whole new system... this is where Technocracy is going to be sold to the people.
Of course it won't openly be sold as Technocracy, but in the end that is what will get implemented to seal our fates.
Just because Killary, Obomba, and the rest of the maniacs are too repulsive to consider doesn't mean that one now has to put on rose-coloured glasses whenever looking in Trump's direction.
One must still observe and assess what they are doing with open eyes and critical analysis and speak out if things are found to be against our own interests.
Absolutely! Their downfall will be their narcissistic desire to reveal. They still fear the masses due to our sheer numbers, and why they want to cull. Another failure but they won't stop trying. Actions, not words, will show the truth.
Also - TDS blinds the left. It's only through true awakening do we have a chance at fighting back
Bernie, good little Communist Piggie!! ONK, ONK!! Feed at the trough of the American Tax Payer! That is how the DemonRats and RepubTurds roll!!
Damn that TDS once it burrows into somebody’s brain it’s there forever
You don't get to be US president or a senator these days without being part of the regime. Trump is no worse and no better than any of the rest of them, they are all traitors as they put the occupiers of Palestine and not the American people at the forefront of their policies every single time. Two cheeks of the same arse as George Galloway puts it so well.
Just a thought…President Trump works more in a single day, than “got thrown off a kibbutz for being lazy and worthless” Bernie works... in a year.
Man takes your meds!
Reminder - The debt from Jane's Burlington College just disappeared after the deal with Hillary - https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/21/us/politics/jane-omeara-sanders-burlington-college.html
And don't get me started in the Big Pharma sell out...
What a load of crap. As usual, going where the wind blows. He’s only talking now as he’s got nothing to lose. He’s raked in lots of money all these past decades. What did he have to say then? Did anyone ask him any objective questions, such as how about all that Pharma $ you were happy to accept? This reminds me of sour grapes, like Hillary’s interviews about ‘stolen’ elections. Meh.
If Bernie were truly dissing the Dems, he would have done it when they pushed him out of the primaries. This is all just fodder to keep people thinking that their voting means something, Red or Blue. We all know it doesn't mean a thing. Even Bernie knows it's all a sham. He isn't going to stop playing in the sham. Why would he?
Him being this honest while lying and doing the DNC's bidding for years is concerning. I wonder if he's still on their leash or he finally stood up.
I liked him before. I even campaigned for him, twice! The DNC did him dirty and he still bent over for them. Plus he took almost 2 million for big pharma workers. I'm not trusting he's out of their control just yet. I'm just glad he didn't endorse AOC 😂!
I campaigned for him twice, too.. The second time was at a friend's behest.... let's just say, the first time it was because there was a national discussion that needed to be had and wouldn't be without him or someone of his bent in the race. The second time, it was to see what was going on in his campaign and see how that discussion was faring. The organization of the second campaign piqued my curiosity, with their use of supervols and the way they arranged to control grassroots energy from the outset. In my view there was something off about the way it was structured and I wasn't expecting how it evolved but I think they were... what did you think? What role did you play in round two?
Both times I only did door to door knocking and talking to people. So I wasn't involved in anything deeper. My support eventually wavered a bit to Tulsi Gabbard mid way through to be honest. I'd agree that his first campaign had more energy and was more 'natural'. The way he just gave up the second time seemed different too. I think he was actually upset the first time but by the second I think the DNC was controlling him more. I think Tusli cared more about it than him! Idk how he can continue to support the DNC after what they did to him.
I think you're right on all counts. It was very different the second time around... the people who naturally became "supervols" the first time around were asked to be field coordinators, and then they were trained in such a rigid, scripted way that the whole thing turned into this way of stamping out people who would repeat scripts at doors, and blob-viral get their friends roped in via an app... the campaign seemed to me to have spent a lot of time figuring out any way the volunteers could put in more energy than the campaign wanted, then making sure that would be nipped in the bud.
There was more to it than that...
When Bernie decided to concede, he told all the coordinators he would speak to them about it, then it was just a Zoom meeting with a canned speech from him.
It was canned all the way up and down...
But the volunteers were converted into activated weaponry for promoting other political goals, so rapidly that I'm certain, that was pre-planned too.
When I heard from people I called on the phone that they mistrusted him after 2016, I certainly couldn't disagree with them.
I hear you on Tulsi Gabbard. I think she was more passionate and honestly invested, too. She certainly risked more.
Well, I don't actually know how much Bernie would have risked if he'd walked away from that fateful 2016 meeting with Obama without having given in. I don't necessarily agree with others that he was roughed up, but I am absolutely certain that "they" will play as rough as they need to. And he seems to be convinced of a "big picture" strategy for which he's willing to throw over this or that "local" battle. I think he does conceive of any presidential campaign as yes, a local battle, compared to the bigger picture of some war that may be in his mind alone.
I don't mean that as an excuse. I don't think it's defensible to conceive of a "war" as he does, for I think his evaluations of the risks involved are flawed. I just mean, I think that's what he's been doing.
But it's nice to meet someone who got out there on the sidewalks! It is really a learning experience to talk to people at their doors, isn't it. I recommend it for anyone, and not just the one-shift approach that many people took... that's not enough to feel the contact with the rest of the populace. It really was an experience I wouldn't give up. Especially since the door lists were so bad, in 2016 particularly, I ended up talking to all sorts of people from all sorts of political affiliations. It's a great way to break out of one's own silo.
Yeah I'd agree with all of that. In 2016 it was very different. I really do think the DNC finally was able to get dirt on him or were holding something over his head. Especially to get him to endorse Biden! I did enjoy the experience though, and I think I might have got through to a couple of people on the fence. Bernie used to be an independent and he was able to bridge that middle ground. I know a lot of people who went from Bernie to Trump after 2020, which would seem like a leap, but for working class people I don't think it was much of a leap. The democratic party is the one that changed, not me. They got their claws into Bernie too. That's why I'm very surprised to see him saying what he is now.
That switch from Bernie to Trump isn't/wasn't that much of a leap at all, not in 2020 and not in 2016! Especially when one considers that in 2016 Trump spoke truthfully about how the DNC's primary had been handled... people who aren't the DNC laptop class did quickly hear about that, and do remember from 2016 to 4 years later--it might surprise DNC stalwarts to learn that people held on to information for that long, but it wouldn't surprise anyone outside of that bubble. Trump and Bernie were both populists speaking to essentially the same pain in the working class, just in diffent ways. There were lots of people who would have preferred Bernie to Trump but simply were never going to vote for a "coastal elite", and the DNC strategists simply couldn't grapple with the specific mix of concerns those voters did have, and the mix of concerns which didn't figure as important for those voters at all.
In the end, fwiw, I think the 2024 election was just a battle between two factions of Silicon Valley money, Trump on one side, Kamala on the other (funded by other Silicon Valley billionaires with a different take on things).
Bernie just won election again in 2024. He's not up for reelection until 2030. He might be lowkey saying that he's not running for Senator again either, *although he has filed to run again but... or perhaps he has decided that he will bow out if his time is up, and so he might as well treat this as his last run of the day so to speak. Mayybe?
I hope so anyway so that is surely my wishful thinking speaking. We could stand to see him be a bit more of a gadfly. He got pretty smoothed-over and cozy there. There are independently-minded politicians such as Thomas Massie who are doing a better job at keeping their integrity. I hope he feels the challenge.
I hope so as well. I was very disappointed in Bernie when I heard he took in so much money from pharma workers. Trump's not my favorite person and I don't agree with everything, but I did vote for him this time. The gender crap was the last straw for me. Bernie at least always stayed out of it. I will admit that I jumped on the fear bandwagon in 2016 over Trump. But when Biden won and people were actually celebrating it, I woke up. It was a process but I've voted for the dems my whole life and now I won't vote for any if they can't define a woman. That's off topic though lol. I do hope you're right about Bernie. Although I wouldn't blame him for just bowing out and enjoying the rest of his life at this point away from politics.
I don't know how ANY serious candidate on the left can support the DNC.
History has been severely skewed. If all people knew the truth, that the KKK was formed by the democrat party to scare people into voting democrat, the party would be over and done.
#two-partyillusion
Yes, Indeed! Bernie's talk and Fox reporting on it is to maintain the illusion of choice. We have no choice. MAGA might even lose 7 million followers when they take Medicaid away. The 1 per centers don't care. They get their tax break.
Congressional Republicans are infuriating to both sides.
No choice? What are you on about??? 23 flavours is not enough for you?
https://youtu.be/6N3A_vMJ2Qk
Bernie Sanders is a threat to our Constitutional Republic! He is a socialist/communist!
When he had the chance to really stand up to them (2016 and 2020), he stifled himself and hewed to the party line. So I’m not even a teensy bit interested in what he has to say now.
The Democratuc party, as it was known in the 60s and earlyv70s, is gone. The Democratic party, of today is closer to the CCP..
BOLD! Especially when he lives in multiple million dollar mansions all paid for by a lifelong leaching in government with a wife who also has no real income
"Bernie Sanders Backstabs the Democratic Party in Brutally Honest Interview"
Yup, he convinced me; he totally has my vote in the next election :P!
Hey Vigilant Fox, since you're very good at presenting stories that "they" are trying to hide, I want to ask you to present a story about Biden's Turbo Cancer.
It seems like all the talking heads on the radio, TV, and internet, are ALL trying to sell the "cover-up" angle... and nobody mentions the spate of turbo cancer that has been going on for a while now.
To me, that's the 800 lb gorilla. It's shocking that nobody even mentions it. I mean, I can see why the big national TV and Radio outlets are selling the conspiracy angle (because they're all owned by big Pharma)... But even online, and even here on substack, I don't hear anyone mentioning the turbo cancer. What gives?
Sanders is no different than those dems he just described. For him to think the bartender green girl with absolutely no intelligence or life knowledge is great is like saying Greta knows about the earth.
I never thought I would see the words "Bernie Sanders" and "painfully honest' in the same sentence. Most of what he says is just plain painful.