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Kenyon Taylor's avatar

I am curious. Are you taking the government's word for who the killer is? What about the jet that took off right after the killing? The anomalous "changing of clothes', and disassembly of the gun on the roof, only to reassemble it so the FBI could find it.... The destruction of evidence right after the shooting by guys who were on stage? This story doesn't make sense. Please let us all know what you really think. Thank you, a long0time follower of yours.

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MM's avatar

I don’t like this either, the information provided doesn’t make sense. Robinson is this situation’s Oswald.

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NJ Election Advisor's avatar

And along comes Jack Ruby

Jacob Leon Rubenstein

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Dan’l's avatar

Climb up out of your rabbit holes, and think it through.

: : edit : :

That was meant to be humorous; not insulting.

Sorry, to any offended.

: : /edit : :

They got the right guy, and others in his circles may have been involved, but even his own family were part of his being turned in.

: : while I’m at it, I’ll add : :

In regard to those circles… could be the boyfriend didn’t know, but clearly failed to come forward once he did.

The one detained destroying a memorial to Charlie Kirk is on the left, the one that murdered him (enhancement of FBI photo) is on the right: they’re wearing the very same t-shirts. (can’t post the photos, soOo see link).

https://substack.com/@keyknee/note/c-156765508?r=1isuhh&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action

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Heidi Heil STOPS Thymectomy's avatar

Ever wonder why there wasn't good protection for Charlie, enabling someone to get on a roof and get away with murder? Even people in the crowd saw the killer but the bodyguards didn't? There is a saying for this- turning a blind eye.

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Jeff Cook-Coyle's avatar

It is a very important question. I can only guess, but here it is: God had Charlie's back. Nothing would happen to Charlie that was not allowed to happen, was not part of God's plan. Did he want to be there as a dad for his kids? Of course. Did his kids come before what God wanted? Did his wife? Nope, and nope again.

I am going to paraphrase one of Jesus's parables. It is about a man who finds a pearl in a field; and with great joy sells all that he has to buy the field. Jesus is that joy. Charlie sold everything for it. We are left alone, missing him. But Charlie is in heaven greeting people, and then will praise God for eternity.

Yeah, it's cool to be the one who unites Bobby Kennedy and the Trump campaign. And what fun to think about the sparklers, and all that. And Charlie was one of the folks pushing hard for JD for VP. He was having a huge impact in America, and is missed around the world. But would Charlie take heaven over all that? Every single time, if it was his God is calling for.

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Heidi Heil STOPS Thymectomy's avatar

God does not control this world, Satan does. God does not plan peoples death. The horrible things that happened to Charlie had nothing to do with God taking action or not taking action. It had to do with humans.

Throughout history people who aren't serving greedy, corrupt, zealot leaders have been directly murdered or allowed to be murdered through lack of protection to serve men's plans, not God's.

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Jeff Cook-Coyle's avatar

I have read the entire Bible easily a dozen times. I am really enjoying the New Living Testament currently. I just got into the Servant Songs in Isaiah.

I disagree with your interpretation of it. Satan had to go to God to sift Job. God knows every hair on our head. Not a sparrow falls without God knowing about it; and we are worth far more than sparrows.

People can turn their back on God, and eventually God turns His back on them. But that was NOT Charlie’s story. God had his back. Charlie’s Golden Rule shtick could only work that way.

There always have been martyrs, and there will be for a long time to come (unless Jesus returns sooner). It was not a lack of God’s protection that allows that.

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Heidi Heil STOPS Thymectomy's avatar

Satan's Influence on Government:

Revelation 13: This chapter describes a "beast" that represents a man-centered, oppressive government system, propped up by man-centered religious institutions, with Satan working behind the scenes to harm the church and mislead the world.

The "Ruler of this World": Jesus referred to Satan as the "ruler of this world" in John 12:31, and the apostle Paul in 2 Corinthians 4:4 calls Satan the "god of this world," suggesting a broad influence over human systems.

The Temptation of Jesus: In Luke 4:5-6, Satan tempts Jesus by offering him "all the kingdoms of the world," demonstrating his ability to exert authority over earthly powers.

"The Whole World Lying in the Power of the Wicked One": 1 John 5:19 states that the entire world is under the sway of the evil one, emphasizing Satan's pervasive influence.

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Heidi Heil STOPS Thymectomy's avatar

1 John 5:19: "We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one". This verse indicates that the entire ungodly world system is under Satan's control.

John 12:31: Jesus says, "Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out". This signifies Satan's influence over the world system, and its eventual removal.

2 Corinthians 4:4: "The god of this age has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ". Here, Satan is depicted as a "god" who deceives people from understanding the truth of the gospel.

Ephesians 2:2: "He is the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who is now at work in the sons of disobedience". This verse positions Satan as a powerful force operating in the "invisible realm immediately about the earth

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SteelJ's avatar

I'm no biblical scholar by a long shot, but you make a lot more sense to me. If God is directing everything down here, that means free will doesn't exist, we are all NPCs, going through orchestrated motions.

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JMWeilan's avatar

God isn’t directing us per se..but all that happens in a lifetime that includes “trials and tribulations” is at His will. He knows us before we’re born. We are given the free will to discern good from evil, to be obedient to God, to practice the 10 commandments from the Old Testament as well as the new covenant made with Jesus found in the Gospels. Read the bible if you can fit it in. Use a good teaching version that references the Greek & Hebrew translations. I learned it late in life and discovered it to be the only real truth I’d ever heard. It answered so many questions on why there’s such hell on earth amid the beauty of this Creation. God bless you on your journey.

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JMWeilan's avatar

I would just add IMO that while God doesn’t plan people’s deaths, he can intervene if it His will as both the Old/New Testaments have taught us. Like with Daniel in the lion’s den…it was not his time therefore he walked out unharmed. Charlie had done his work in God’s glory, and while too young, God didn’t intervene in his death elevating Charlie’s life into a movement in Jesus’ mighty name.

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Heidi Heil STOPS Thymectomy's avatar

And yet Charlie died and his death is being used to try and pass laws that ban USA citizens from speaking out, seize their passports for their views. They are ensuring people cannot leave the USA if they dont support a specific religious leader. What next- jail time for tweets and account seizures?

No one wants to touch this. They are too busy preaching about it being God's will and how much Charlie loved Trump and apparently he also supported dystopian laws too… ones he was against.

I'm done with this topic. People will figure it out after they lose their freedoms and dystopia reigns.

Best wishes for you and everyone.

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JD's avatar

We fight satan every day because we believe in Jesus and God. When you believe in satan you are lost unless you see the light. They are both here so it is your choice who you want to follow God gives you that choice just make the right one.

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Heidi Heil STOPS Thymectomy's avatar

Even Jesus believed Satan existed. Believing he exists and is ruler of this world, cast from heaven to be a plague upon man, doesn't negate the fact that people can chose God. The 2 aren't mutually exclusive

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Jay Lucas's avatar

Read Psalm 91. God doesn’t control this world, but he promises protections for those that have faith and find refuge in Him.

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Lorraine Thomas's avatar

I beg to differ…Sir….you need to read.."the book of Job! God was in total control…..of all that happened to Job! Even the death…of His own Son…God ordained it…and was in total control.. of it!

There are no maverick molecules…running loose in Gods world! God is in total control of all things! You need to re-read your Bible!😊

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Heidi Heil STOPS Thymectomy's avatar

Ps. To help prove this point read Jeremiah, specifically in chapters 7, 19, and 32. The prophet Jeremiah condemns the Israelites for sacrificing their children to the god Baal and to Molech in the Valley of Ben Hinnom. In these passages, God emphatically denies that he ever commanded or even considered such a practice.

If every molecule is in the complete control of God, how do you explain this?

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Heidi Heil STOPS Thymectomy's avatar

That is the old Testament when Satan whispered in Gods ear to test the faith of Job. That was not predetermination Calvanism which is what people are describing when they speak of “Gods Plan” or God controlling all things.

Unlike the Book of Job, where God allowed Satan to test Job's faithfulness through suffering, the New Testament presents trials as opportunities for growth and refinement.

God doesn't tempt believers. He permits trials that may come from the devil or the challenges of a fallen world. James 1:13 clarifies that God is not the source of temptation.

We have free will and suffer consequences. Predetermination and free will both are spoken of in the Bible. When people take predetermination and throw out free will, saying everything is completely planned out, this is a distortion of the Bible.

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Carol Anne Tucker's avatar

It appears that you may have been reading your Bible, but NOT comprehending the Bible. Those who live in glass houses should be mindful not to throw stones. Maybe Gary Wayne can help you with your understanding of scripture!

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Heidi Heil STOPS Thymectomy's avatar

🤣🤣🤣 I thought you said Wayne Dyer. Where are my glasses?! Lol. People in this comment section seem to be using his new age theories of Satan. Youre referring to the conspiracy theorists who uncovers mysteries like secret societies. Not really someone i would consider going to to learn Bible teachings but you go girl!.

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Heidi Heil STOPS Thymectomy's avatar

Wayne Dyer's teachings draw parallels with a variety of non-biblical philosophies, including elements from Eastern philosophy (Taoism), Western philosophical traditions (New Thought, Transcendentalism, and Stoicism), and analytical psychology (Jungian). The common thread among these traditions is the emphasis on personal transformation, self-awareness, and an internal—rather than external—connection to the divine.

He didn't follow the Bible He turned it into a philosophy.

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Heidi Heil STOPS Thymectomy's avatar

Wayne Dyer's teachings, rooted in New Age and spiritual philosophy, do not align with the traditional religious idea that Satan is a literal entity ruling the Earth. Instead, he viewed "evil" not as an external force, but as an illusion created by the ego's separation from the divine. He is twisting scriptures to fit his personal viiew not traditional views. I don't listen to new age men who twist things into how they see the Bible instead of how it is written.

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Heidi Heil STOPS Thymectomy's avatar

You're words apply to you very well.

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Lorraine Thomas's avatar

Amen….he was sold out for Jesus…and wouldn’t trade… Heaven…for all the tea in China! I believe that!

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Dan’l's avatar

There’s almost no way to secure these outdoor events, even when working with law enforcement. (The shooter was 200 YDS out.)

I wish it wasn’t necessary: all political events should be moved indoors, or into stadiums, or other controlled environments.

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Carol Anne Tucker's avatar

I do agree that the security situation was lax and the work staff could have been way more vigilant. But Alas...that was NOT God's plan. With as many of these rallies that Turning Point USA did constantly, and with as many different people attending these, it is easy to let your guard down as trusting, good Christian people with the message they were delivering. Charlie fulfilled his life contract with GOD just as it was meant to be, as sad as it is. This incident will be a massive movement in the world for the fulfillment of HIS plan for mankind, just like God meant it to become. Thanks to the current administration, things will be made better in the long-run because of Charlie and his family's sacrifice. If only we could ALL go in the name of GOD in this manner...Praise BE to GOD in the HIGHEST! RIP Charlie Kirk, though we didn't know you personally, we love you as a brother, STILL and ALWAYS...

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CONNIE DAVIDSON's avatar

Charlie had a security but there were crazies running around it would seem

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SteelJ's avatar

Comments like "climb out of your rabbit holes" only work among dummies. Most here are not dummies, that tactic works much better among clueless leftists. I think they got the right guy, but I appreciate skepticism. Hasn't the last 5 years taught you that? Kenyon has some good questions that need answers.

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Dan’l's avatar

: : edited : : to apologize; meant to be humorous, rather than offensive.

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MM's avatar

We are dealing with chronic liars. Seriously, go down the rabbit hole. If we weren’t perpetually bombarded with lies, then I could agree with you. But since narratives are more important than truths, rabbit holes it is.

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Paula's avatar

Follow the money in family and privately

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Hanora Brennan's avatar

You're right on the money!

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Ellen's avatar

Agree . . a lot doesn't add up. That said, hatred of Christianity / indoctrination to hate what they grew up with can make someone a willing patsy. But there's probably more to this ...

https://georgewebb.substack.com/p/earshot-the-charlie-kirk-murder (I don't know .. but worth considering)

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Carol Anne Tucker's avatar

Thank YOU so much for this video!!!!

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MM's avatar

The more I learn, the more this reminds me of JFK.

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Hanora Brennan's avatar

Kenyon, another Oswald in the making! Even the same rifle! A WW2 relic manufactured by the Italians.

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CONNIE DAVIDSON's avatar

he's not focusing on the who but the why.....they why reflects why there is a who, when where. The who is the distraction the THEY use to keep us from the Why. This country 's Who are attacking Christianity!!!!! What better way to crush the Western culture(is based on a belief in God.

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sharon's avatar

where is the autopsy ?

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Lorraine Thomas's avatar

Also….the two hand signalers….standing on each side…of Charlie…giving some kind of signals! What about them??!

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Onward Through the Fog's avatar

If they have hundreds of images of the shooter tracing his steps to and from the event, they have data on the jet, data on the crowd and data on you and me and our wanderings. But, playing along, I could see the rifle found in the woods being placed by the shooter before the shooting and him using something much more compact and easier to assemble and disassemble.

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Mac Daddy's avatar

Do we take the killer's word that he did it(?)... or are your surmisals more weighty?

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terrysbiz's avatar

I agree completely! It appears "The Vigilant Fox" is not so Vigilant after all??? To fail to see & grasp the significance of the points you raise is inexcusable?, impossible in fact for anyone with critical thinking skills. For the Vigilant Fox to fail to grasp or raise these issues, there can be only one explanation. He is controlled opposition. As is Tucker Carlson. He also is not that far from the official narrative.

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Eric Watson's avatar

I wonder this too

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NJ Election Advisor's avatar

The “sin” of questioning the genocidal zionists

Ben Shapiro jumping in while the body still warm. Distasteful and a dark, poor choice.

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Dan’l's avatar

Bullsh!t.

Charlie Kirk supported Israel, and the genocide is endlessly waged by the Sunni Muslim terrorists inside, and outside of, Gaza and the West Bank.

Ben Shapiro has been friends with, and a supporter of, Charlie Kirk since he first began.

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E. Grogan's avatar

But Charlie changed his mind on Israel awhile ago; he no longer supported Israel and realized there was evil in Israel.

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Rose Thompson's avatar

Shapiro is a pos. He isnt worthy to shine Charlie's shoes.

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NJ Election Advisor's avatar

The Lady doth protest too much.

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Dan’l's avatar

Nope… just erroneously presumed intelligence.

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Dan’l's avatar

I’m a Zionist. I didn’t do it.

Charlie Kirk was a Zionist:

Charlie Kirk was a Zionist in practice and by self-identification, especially in the sense of evangelical Christian Zionism. He supported Israel strongly, affirmed scriptural/messianic views tied to its land, and participated in Zionist events.

The facts are clear enough already to say: we know who actually killed him, and we know why he did it.

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E. Grogan's avatar

He quit supporting Israel awhile ago. He realized that it was evil.

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Graphite's avatar

We're marching to Zion

Beautiful beautiful Zion

We're marching upwards to Zion

The beautiful city of God 🎶

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NJ Election Advisor's avatar

Here is Charlie questioning for the zionist commenter (Dan’l) who cursed at me:

https://x.com/AtRealBen/status/1966033538865856837 Charlie 48 hours before being assassinated

And another:

https://x.com/a_westgate/status/1965932682388652402

Hard to reason with pro-murder

Even Charlie was aware of it near the end:

https://x.com/CryptoMoon2411/status/1965950148263161997

RIP, Charlie. Didn’t agree with you but as you said below:

“The way you are treating me is so repulsive” https://x.com/KAGdrogo/status/1965929694437822748

Criticizing Israel or allowing it to be criticized immediately preceded your death.

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Paula's avatar

thank you for this and for showing his "other" side which so many of his followers refuse to see.

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NJ Election Advisor's avatar

Whom can (and can’t) people criticize?

https://x.com/hippyygoat/status/1968219030059470895

Tells who controls and who is in control. RIP, Charlie

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Paula's avatar

Was never a follower of Kirk. Never even knew his name before he was assassinated. I hope his late views and comments on Israel get air time because it seems he was turning and god knows what he would have become; something Israel feared. He joins JFK, MLK, Fred Hampton and so many others with a true heart for the people of this nation.

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NJ Election Advisor's avatar

100% - RFK too.

Agreed - I didn't follow Kirk (Church) either, and I don't agree with all his stances, but he was a man of conviction if nothing else! RIP

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Ruth's avatar

Wouldn't it be interesting if God "arrested" Ben Shapiro, like He did Saul on he road to Emmaus, and turned him into a Paul for our time? Saul was, afterall, a "Benjamite"... something to pray about, eh? Hum.

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NJ Election Advisor's avatar

The Lord works in mysterious ways - who thought we'd see SuperLib Candace Owens wake up? Jordan Peterson? Tucker Carlson?

Are they all part of the Mockingbird Media? Who knows?

People do grow, and we should cheer it. You're right, Saul was the model of conversion. He did get beheaded at the Tre Fontane (sight of MANY miracles, including the conversion of demonic [turned angelic] Bruno Cornachiola).

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Dan’l's avatar

Tucker’s bad about putting his own spin on the facts…

Charlie Kirk was murdered for telling the truth, most particularly about them that try to do what cannot be done (change their sex).

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Marc Anderson's avatar

Any consolidating movement that emerges within the social fabric will be closely monitored.

MLK also had the eloquence of relating to vast demographics of citizens. He was stopped dead.

Charlie shared the same potential threat to the 2 party power-broker system.

They will cut you off at the knees or the neck, it matters not. God has little to do with it.

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Heidi Heil STOPS Thymectomy's avatar

Yes. He was hated for being a Christian.

Christians aren't meant to align with people who do not believe in Jesus and the new Testament.

Christians, above all, love, but nowhere in the Bible does it speak of aligning with other religions to war and punish its own people for speaking their minds against war.

Charlie Kirk began to speak out against the powers that funded him.

He would not have agreed with laws that censor USA citizens yet this is what his death has triggered. Laws that will take passports away from people who speak freely.

He believed in USA 🇺🇸

"USA foundation prioritizes freedom of religion ***through the separation of church and state,*** enshrined in the Constitution's First Amendment."

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Jeff Cook-Coyle's avatar

Have you seen the Max Blumenthal article, https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-netanyahu-israel-assassination/ ?

In it, Blumenthal article, a long-time friend of Kirk's, "who also enjoyed access to President Donald Trump and his inner circle," tells the writer of Israel's fury that Kirk is leading America's youth away from Israel. Just as you say.

When I read the article, I thought that Tucker was Blumenthal's source. But it looks like he is not the one.

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Heidi Heil STOPS Thymectomy's avatar

I haven't seen this. Thank you for sharing it.

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Alanna Hartzok's avatar

Oh my! I was born into a fundamentalist Christian family and was "born again" at a young age. I do believe that Jesus was a pacifist and taught love one another - no excepetions. But I do not believe that Christianity as organized religion is tolerant in the the belief that the only way to God / Heaven is through Jesus. My parents believed, for instance, that our good Jewiish doctor would not go to heaven. Nor is organized Christianity non-violent. If it was non-violent then every Christian in the country would be out on the streets protesting US wars of aggression and imperialism and would stop the US foreign policy of "full spectrum dominance."

Christianity lost its pacifist non-violent, love-not-hate teachings when it became the official religion of the Roman Empire. The true Judeo-Christian belief recognized that the earth is God's gift (the "koina") for all to fairly share in order to secure their basic needs ("autarkeia") To get the pacifist Christians to fight the imperialist Roman wars they needed a rational invented by Augustine as "just war theory" now know as "responsibility to protect" in US foreign policy language. A nation cannot be both truly Christian and also warmongering imperialist. A Christian cannot be a real follower of Christ if they treat the earth as a market commodity and "make a killing in real estate.:" Tucker Carlson - I highly value most of your views but in this regard - Wake UP!!!!

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Jeff Cook-Coyle's avatar

Tucker is growing in his faith. He talks more openly and knowledgeably about Christianity than anyone else with a comparable platform in the US. Compare him to the pro-covid Tucker, and he has come a long way in his Christian understanding.

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Steph's avatar

As Shawn Ryan of the Shawn Ryan show is. He is on Patreon has clips or and some full shows on YouTube and maybe a few other places.

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Graphite's avatar

Christianity is not defined by governments or false prophets! Go back to the Bible and the words of our Lord and Savious Jesus Christ! 🙏

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SB Native's avatar

Thank you for covering it, and giving us the credit for being able to synthesize what we see here (because we don't see a well-rounded picture unless we find sources outside the MSM). And NO, as a Christian, and conservative in many areas, I will tolerate anyone (media, politicians, etc.) trying to blame the "rhetoric of the right" for Kirk's death. Go EFF yourselves.

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KnightsofSaintPatrick's avatar

Spot on. Thank you, Tucker. Please further explore CHRISTIAN PERSECUTION. Talk to Josh Halley. He brings this up with Kash Patel recently. God bless you and your family. God bless America. And God bless and protect the Kirk family and all families of Christians who are speaking the TRUTH and being the LIGHT. Maybe also explore Charlie's interest in Our Blessed Mothet Mary, The Rosary and the Fatima Prophesy about Russia spreading its errors throughout the World if they are not consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. This is an urgent, timely, critical Catholic prophesy ignored by the Vatican and the Bishops. Contact the Fatima Center and America Needs Fatima Organizations. You'll learn a lot and be amazed and also have more hope.

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KnightsofSaintPatrick's avatar

Josh Hawley. He specifically asked Kash Patel to commit to investigating the ongoing persecution of Christians.

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KnightsofSaintPatrick's avatar

The Prophesy of Fatima had to do and still has to do with World Wars and other chastisements. We are entering this stage now. It's a Turning Point. It makes complete sense to me that Charlie married a Catholic + Candace too. And that recently he's considering conversion. He was praying the Rosary which Catholics believe us the Spiritual Weapon to fight the enemy which is not flesh and blood.

This gives me hope and comfort because Charlie never gave up, never gave in and never compromised, even unto death. As Christians we have to commit to this kind of great faith and also understand what is coming.

Our Lady Queen of Peace pray for us. Amen.

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Inverse Spinning's avatar

I believe Tucker missed the main point: true christians are servants of unconditional love and that love has a power that intimidates those psychopaths who worship the opposite. Having a leader so heartcentered is a menace, just like Jesus was, so better kill him now than later. Of course, that is if you have realized that the FBI is pushing fake, imaginary evidence to try to control the narrative, because Kirk was killed by the psychopaths, not by some kid.

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Old Goat's avatar

Jesus is the WORD that became flesh. God with Us. He knows what is in your heart and confronts you to acknowledge your sin. You cannot hide from God. He shines His Light on us and many cannot bear it because they do not love God, they love darkness. He died on a cross for our sins and for those who confess and acknowledge His atonement and believe in Him, He gives them eternal life. God asks us to surrender to Him. We don't want to surrender we want to be our own god. There is only one true God and He is the only one worthy of our worship.

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Jan's avatar

No - I think it is much more complicated and dark - he was living in a world of 764 and 9 Angle. Websites that advocate for extreme action - sure he was angry with Kirk for his views about Trans and gays, since his partner was transing. But the support, encouragment and desire for acceptance and recognition within the 764 world stands out to me as his prime motivator to extreme behavior - evil. Start here, but know you are headed down a very, very dark world that is more violent, extreme than anything a normie, especially a religious normie could ever imagine: https://abcnews.go.com/US/fbi-opened-250-investigations-tied-violent-online-network/story?id=121480884

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Jeff Cook-Coyle's avatar

Thanks. I was looking forward to Tucker's speaking up on Charlie. Your summary is much appreciated.

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Abigail Starke's avatar

Thanks for the article. Agree with Tucker.

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KnightsofSaintPatrick's avatar

https://www.hawley.senate.gov/ Josh Hawley asked Kash Patel to commit to looking into the rise of Christian persecutions in the USA

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Ed.'s avatar

Who cares (anymore) about what Tucker Carlson thinks? He's only relevant to half-wits.

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Lorraine Thomas's avatar

Plus he is beginning…. to go down the rabbit hole…. and blame everything on Israel! He and Candace….are stirring hate… for the Jewish people… through lies and deceit! He’s also in tight with Islam! There I guess….funding him!

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Hanora Brennan's avatar

Tucker Carlson, add me to your friends' list, please? You are such a effective communicator that can get right down to the pub of a problem. Never stop the sterling work you perform.

Greetings from Ireland where Baphomet is having 'hooleys' day and night, here. The air is laden with hate, suspicion and resentment. Heaven help us.

Hanora Brennan

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Hanora Brennan's avatar

*nub

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