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DJL's avatar

Hmmmm….. a Democrat politician with a spark of common sense. Interesting.

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SomeDude's avatar

a stroke can definitely have interesting side effects. maybe he won the stroke lottery and gained increased intelligence and humanity.

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JD's avatar

Personally I think the guy is the better part of his party. He has turned out to be quite the surprise.

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vz's avatar

A common sense approach, imagine that!

I couldn't agree more that our Govn't should NEVER use the citizens in such a despicable manner! First loss of income should be directed to every member of both parties in any shutdown going forward! Let them feel the pain FIRST! No pay. No benefits. No nothing.

They are there to do the business of the people, not their OWN. If they can't do it, then get the heck OUT!

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Blair's avatar

The sad and unfortunate reality, is they're all so rich from their graft and corruption, none of them would feel any financial pain even if they went unpaid for six months.

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SomeDude's avatar

with base salary (plus additional perks) set at 10x the federal minimum wage, I'd suggest a real eye opening educational experience for most of Congress would be to get 2 months of their current pay per year and have their perks cut to the same amount given to the minimum wage citizenry.

so around $15K/year salary and they can apply for Obamacare if they want medical insurance.

imagine how fast minimum wage and obamacare would be set to livable levels if all the Congresscritters were forced to exist at those levels or tap personal wealth to compensate.

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vz's avatar

Totally get that, but it's more for a symbolic gesture, and possibly contribute in slowing down the pace of which their wealth accumulates.

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Te Burt's avatar

It should be written into law that any shutdown automatically pauses pay to all Congress people, staff, etc. I see no reason why they should not suffer, too. Better yet, limited # of terms. What is it - 12 years for House and 8 for Senate? Or vice versa?

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vz's avatar

Agree, it should be written into law, but we the people must demand it! I've written to my representatives in both houses expressing this very exact thing. Hopefully more citizens will do the same. 🗽

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Dave Vierthaler's avatar

An old style politician that believes in representation , negotiation and reaching across the isle. Both parties could use more like him.

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Darren DeBonet's avatar

I did not know anything about Fetterman when he was running for the senate. When he ran, he suffered a serious stroke and could barely speak. The people who spoke for him were far left ideologues. Now that he’s gotten better, I don’t see the same person we were led to believe ran for the senate in PA, in a good way. Seems to me he was used, but now seems to be the adult in the room on the Democrat side of the senate. Quite interesting.

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Bob LaRue's avatar

Fetterman is speaking common

sense and truth. I love it. If more Dems would join him, we could

return this country to civility.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Democrats should run Fetterman as their Presidential candidate. He’s their only choice compared to Kamala Harris, AOC, Gavin Newsom, etc.

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MartyB's avatar

More Dims need to have strokes. I’ll never condone the Democrat Party’s existence, much less agree with there policy wish lists, but Fetterman takes positions I can agree with.

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Unsteady's avatar

Fetterman as the most reasonable and truth-speaking Democratic Senator - who would have thought?

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Paula Grosser's avatar

Thank GOD Sen. Fetterman sees it and stands firm on his own morals, standards and ethics. A true leader!

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Bill Shannon's avatar

It's a low bar but John Fetterman is clearly the best of the Democrat Party.

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Occam's avatar

You know, I'd settle for a group of Democratic congressmen with strong moral compass, integrity and wanted the best for our citizens. But that held different views on how best to run things.

But what we have is not this. It's some twisted version of reality where men can be women, fascism is around every corner, and it's completely justified to use every resource in the US govt/legal system to destroy their political opponents.

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Carol's avatar

Thank God for Fetterman and the other few Democrats with the sense to see that they were only hurting the people who need the most help!

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Bluehorse's avatar

The esteemed Senator Fetterman is one of my new heroes. I have great respect for this man.

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Judy's avatar

It is hopeful to hear; however, I say that, knowing politicians say what they will, untruths included, to capture the hope of the people. All the while knowing the “mandatory” agenda to which they adhere has not changed. Disheartening at best, isn’t it? What to do about it? We must think, examine our thoughts and rely on God to guide us, if He will. 1 Samuel 8:6-20. Very sobering.

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George Shay's avatar

I think he's been reading my Substack, or maybe ghostwriting it.

“What’s going to prevail is common sense. What’s going to prevail is choosing this country over the extreme in our party. What’s going to prevail is common sense,” he stressed.

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TomL's avatar

Fetterman is scum; was injured by the clot shots and still thinks the sickcare and despicable pharma system is great!

We need to wake up to the fact that economic opportunities are less and less for many Americans, that between AI and the increased automation and loss of good jobs that Elon Musk was right when he saw the inevitable, some type of guaranteed standard of living as they have in Australia and most other countries.

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Allie's avatar

“Guaranteed standard of living” sounds communist to me. That sounds like taking away from people who earn and giving it to those who don’t. That takes away incentive and actually promotes poverty; a poverty of living standards; a poverty of ingenuity, a decline in work ethic.

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TomL's avatar

Labels are meaningless, not even your cherished "Republican" label is worth a damn; we have the Republican crime club and the Democrat Party crime clubs, they serve their wealthy donors and give token handouts to the rest. Every European country, Australia and New Zealand have sound governmental structures and taxation.

The US has become a tax haven for international financial scammers, crypto crooks, plutocrats who've gamed the system. It's only gotten worse: https://www.amazon.com/Perfectly-Legal-Campaign-Benefit-Everybody/dp/1591840198

How do you earn your income? I've been in self-employment most all my life. Most of the corporations have become cheats of their workers, I saw it at Home Depot, no real merit-based incentives for workers, managers getting fired without real cause, products especially home improvement low quality.

If you look at the various sectors of the economy, from schooling, to goods and services, to banking, etc. there really isn't much opportunity for righteous and conscientious businesses who pay their workers well and serve reasonable business demands and refuse to do questionable work.

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Dave Slough's avatar

From a Republican point of view I kinda like the guy wish he was a Republican as well

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SH's avatar

And yet, he is one of the few democrats making any sense.

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TomL's avatar

He's a brain-washed zio-nazi and has no real work history.

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Tit4Tat's avatar

Just remember that Saint Elon helped create what he sees. Too bad he didn't see the ramification of his actions way back when on his journey to becoming the richest Have in a world mostly made up of Have Nots. As for Australia and the rest of the world? They bought the gaslighting from the global elites. All of them have Muslim problems imported with forced immigration.. The world is being slowly conformed not to socialism, but to totalitarianism. Sharia law for everyone is not far off. NYC is our testing ground. Humanity is infested with cancer of the mental type. Everything occurs in repeating cycles, and humanity is on the downswing. The more people want to revert to infantilism, being coddled and "saved" for safety and convenience, the more regressive ideology will grow. We are moving into modern day dark ages. As for Fetterman, damaged goods or not, he's surprisingly still human with his own abiding code of ethics and morals, something very few in our government, or any other world government, can claim. I rather like his having a backbone and staunch non-conformity in the face of his party's insanity.

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TomL's avatar

We were much better off in the 1950s with the tax system we had then; in the 40s second-rate politicians like Wendell Willke and Dewey, and Joe McCarthy were pushing the red scare and the "threat" of communism pushing us into failed military conflicts, pushing businesses with all their toxic chemicals to not be regulated. While Great Britain was trying to get greed out of healthcare, the US steadily built the most corrupt sickcare system on earth with perverse incentives at every turn. More and more drugs, always treating symptoms not root causes through natural means, were the programs of both the GOP and the Democrats. Common sense proposals from people like Dr. Oz get laughed at. The bottom line on health should be that if people cannot survive without extreme measures the rest of us should not pay for their irresponsibility.

I'd have everyone in and out of government paid a reasonable daily wage $100-$200 a day and if they can't perform then they should not be paid.

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mtman2's avatar

For starters foreign socialist fools who think Globalist funded Communism is a joke do not live in the real world of either what went down or now unfolding;

McCarthy wasn't half right and Gens.McArthur & Patton had it 100% right, tho the FIAT bought & owned Gubmints across the Western Civs.wouldn't allow it,

............"COMMUNIST GOALS for AMERICA"........

Post WWII MarXism for the West esp. to ivide & break America internally:

*The following was read into the 1963 Congressional Record & mostly fullfilled:

"Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

Do away with all loyalty oaths.

Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

1se technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

Gain control of all student newspapers.

Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.

Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

Internationalize the Panama Canal.

Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike."

☆Time to realize the UN-Agenda 21+2030/50 & partner orgs. EU, WEF/WHO,BIS, IMF are ALL set up and run by the "City of London" Central Bankster Cabal & their control of/FED/IRS (1913) was a grip on the throat of the West,

Fo Century's these Globalist's funded all wars for profit & depopulation esp those in the 20Century,

They chose ATHEIST MARXISM 150yrs ago as their go to tool & system for their NWO under a One World Gov. from a central toletarian Politbur

【this is why Communism was always funded by them】

Idea was to of the same worldwide and incrementally gained control at all levels, Esp. Education at all levels & medicine-(BigMedPharma)...!

They control the DC unelected 438 Agency DeepState/all nations(includes Judges) run by their appointed bureaucrats & Uni-Party, controlling interest in every major Corporation Worldwide esp the CCP+EU as puppets,

Only the Constitutional Commonsense Conservative Godly minded citizen can grasp that- TRUMP and team with God is all the Hope WE all now have to thwart these Luciferians as their "Great Reset" looms with its total controlling Digital monetary takeover with the proven Red China control of their now tested ~

"social credit score system"

Everyone must take their mark to then buy & sell by number...!

You will do as Gov. tells you or lose access to all you own, gulags await...!

The cork is ready to put on the bottle with all mankind inside just as the all along the SCRIPTURE's fortold = "Animal Farm+1984" - combined...!

These controllers also direct the elections THEIR WAY- just look at NYC...¡¡¡

Many of us were Charlie Kirk even before he was born, then he really got it and totally got it lead a movement away from MarXism on College Campuses,

Charlie was seen by "The Controllers"" to be in the White House in the 2030's being Trump/Vance on steroids bringing 10's of millions of Awakened with him in heart, mind and Spirit...!

My substack has many more details tho am working on several books:

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Manuela's avatar
4hEdited

No, he didn’t say that there should be some kind of UBI “as in Australia.” Elon has said repeatedly he is not a communist/socialist policies and is against excessive taxation. His support for UBI is in the context in which AI puts so may people out of work (and produces so much money) that the wealth created by AI - the same AI that took people’s jobs - should then be shared with the job-displaced masses so that they have a UBI that comes from the profits of techno-capitalism, NOT from redistributing wealth from the masses (Marxism).

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TomL's avatar

AI and technology in many cases are making people lazier and less human. Australia and New Zealand have much better quality of lives than the US which is more or less an everyone for themselves money-driven system. When money is God and your decisions are governed by tight-wads, skin-flints, and two-bit business managers without a shred of humanity, no one is really benefitted especially the top dog.

The Trump administration is the perfect example with rock bottom scummy cabinet people from top to bottom, they're worse than the previous group. Trump never ran an honest business, not even in the real estate and casino fields as so many writers such as David Cay Johnston has proven, as he sidled up to all types of drug king pins, foreign money launderers. He scammed endless numbers of people out of their hard earned money now he and his family are doing it again with crypto.

Epstein will bury the Trump people as it continues to leak out.

The only real honest businesses are the traditional ones such as the Mennonites are involved in; centered around food, clothing, transportation, housing, fuel, goods and services.

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mtman2's avatar
2hEdited

Your grasp of reality is also so far gone you cannot get a clue of what's really going on here if you in any way embrace the clearly warped Satanic Left,

Esp the last Administration and its pathetic "Cabinet" of liars & incompetant weirdo's, certainly the "men" in dresses and high heels = they almost destroyed us...!

Try fixing your own Socialist hole of nation with that kind of ideology as they inject you with multiple boosters...!

Menonnites here voted for Trump as did ths Amish in Pa. to save us all...!

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